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Spidey63 Posts: 100
2/12/2022
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I could not find the original post. But was it decided that all copies have the blue Galactus error?
Because I still see the error variant in the data base and the dollar value is double the non-error issue.
Thank you.
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collectibleshop Posts: 3088
2/12/2022
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this is the thread: https://comicspriceguide.com/forum/topic16324-marvel-super-heroes-secret-wars---error.aspx
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Spidey63 Posts: 100
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Thank you for the thread.
Was there agreement that a non-error copy exists?
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collectibleshop Posts: 3088
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pukie2122 wrote:
Thank you for the thread.
Was there agreement that a non-error copy exists?
from what I've read, the 'non-error' copies are the second print and digital ones where the color was corrected. CGC does not note the white/blue nonsense, just 1st and second print. CBCS notes the 'error' but of course they ALL have it. my opinion is that all the 1st prints have the error, so many people are lying/hyping that it's not common and asking ridiculous prices, and getting it sometimes. I'm not spending more time on searches, but I saw none on e**** that were noted as 1st prints saying they DIDN'T have the blue/white Galactus, but doesn't mean a few didn't get printed near the end of the run when they found the mistake, IF they did in time.
go read this CGC forum thread too, vast majority say all 1st prints had the error, and 1 post noted a No-Prize response from Marvel about the color "was caused by the effect of Galactus transitioning through the shield of the Beyonder into space." This of course was a joke to cover up the printing mistake.
https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/404119-secret-wars-1-blue-galactus-variant/#comments
and to make things worse, 1 guy has some copies with a RED Galactus he says, but the pics are gone or never worked, so dunno if those really exist, didn't go search.
And BOTH versions are a blue costume, just different shades, so it should be called the white helmet version. dunno how this stuff gets started and everyone copies 1 person's description when it's not accurate. this 'error' should not be worth any more than a normal 1st print since all were apparently done that way. you can do your own searches and see if anyone ever finds a 1st print with correct colors.
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Spidey63 Posts: 100
2/13/2022
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If the error is on most or all 1st prints, and should not be worth more than the non-error, I guess CPG will decide if pricing should be the same for both in CPG database.
Thank you again for all that great information. It was very helpful.
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collectibleshop Posts: 3088
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I hadn't looked at CPG's listing till now. So they have the 'doesn't exist/non-error' regular #1 at $55 in 9.4, and the 'they're all error editions' at $100 in 9.4. So to me they should remove one or the other, since after this many years most owners have stated they all have the 'error' edition, so there isn't two editions of the 1st print, and the 'error' copy is the common one, so should not be worth more, IF there even is a non-error 1st print, as THAT would be the rare one.
And the subnote says '1st appearance of the Beyonder, voice only' ? A voice isn't an appearance! Something must appear to be an appearance. Reading voice text gives you no idea what a character looks like, so that should be reworded, but not sure how. '1st hint of the Beyonder, voice only' or something would be more accurate.
And after looking at some pics in the CGC thread again, I see that the 2nd print costume is more purple than blue, hence the 'blue costume error' stuff, but in all the recolored later versions, like the Omnibus, they have the suit a deeper blue, not purple, so it WAS a printing error and not the Beyonder's light messing with things. haven't looked up 'Galactus costume over the years', but likely different artists had the suit as purple and blue at various times. But still more accurate to say it's the 'white helmet printing error, all have it, not rare'.
This 'mistake' is like Overstreet saying Star Trek #1 from 1967 had a back cover variant for decades, when it never did. Sometimes the excuse was that Overstreet intentionally scattered erroneous info in the guide to nab counterfeiters who copied it, but I don't recall if they ever pointed out the intentional errors, but that would defeat the purpose.
A response on the CGC forum from CGC about not noting this error on their labels was "Thanks for your email. I did check with the graders on this and they advised that we do not list this as an error because the color plates were switched while printing most of the print run so this happened to the majority of copies." Actually a color plate was missing, not switched, but whatevs..
so the powers that be can decide how to list this, I think I've spent enough time on it now.
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lokyel Posts: 486
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I agree
collectibleshop wrote:
I hadn't looked at CPG's listing till now. So they have the 'doesn't exist/non-error' regular #1 at $55 in 9.4, and the 'they're all error editions' at $100 in 9.4. So to me they should remove one or the other, since after this many years most owners have stated they all have the 'error' edition, so there isn't two editions of the 1st print, and the 'error' copy is the common one, so should not be worth more, IF there even is a non-error 1st print, as THAT would be the rare one.
And the subnote says '1st appearance of the Beyonder, voice only' ? A voice isn't an appearance! Something must appear to be an appearance. Reading voice text gives you no idea what a character looks like, so that should be reworded, but not sure how. '1st hint of the Beyonder, voice only' or something would be more accurate.
And after looking at some pics in the CGC thread again, I see that the 2nd print costume is more purple than blue, hence the 'blue costume error' stuff, but in all the recolored later versions, like the Omnibus, they have the suit a deeper blue, not purple, so it WAS a printing error and not the Beyonder's light messing with things. haven't looked up 'Galactus costume over the years', but likely different artists had the suit as purple and blue at various times. But still more accurate to say it's the 'white helmet printing error, all have it, not rare'.
This 'mistake' is like Overstreet saying Star Trek #1 from 1967 had a back cover variant for decades, when it never did. Sometimes the excuse was that Overstreet intentionally scattered erroneous info in the guide to nab counterfeiters who copied it, but I don't recall if they ever pointed out the intentional errors, but that would defeat the purpose.
A response on the CGC forum from CGC about not noting this error on their labels was "Thanks for your email. I did check with the graders on this and they advised that we do not list this as an error because the color plates were switched while printing most of the print run so this happened to the majority of copies." Actually a color plate was missing, not switched, but whatevs..
so the powers that be can decide how to list this, I think I've spent enough time on it now.
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