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<description><![CDATA[<b>CaptGrelden</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><br/>Not threatening you but letting you know you seriously do need your ass kicked, man</blockquote><br/><br/>See your the one that doesn't "Get It" who's hostile about this? Not me...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[O.K., well this has become a thing now.  Let's all agree to speak to the issue and not go after individuals, whichever side you're on.  We don't mind a lively discussion with varying points of view but we don't want personal attacks.  Stay focused on the discussion, topic, or disagreement.  This is a hobby and we want it to be enjoyable for everyone, new and old.  <br/><br/>If there are personal attacks from this point on, I will delete that post.  <br/><br/>Enforcing a kinder and gentler environment with an iron fist. <img src="images/smilies/smile.gif" border=0 alt="smile" /><br/>Ron]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>I see what you have to go thru Defiant people are like sheep and don't want to care about anything but themselves and **** everybody else...WOW! on they THREATEN you like they are some sort of "Supreme Being" <br/><br/>People don't see the "Real" picture just what they want to and they will harp on that....WOW! <br/><br/>And this guy can't even put a name just "Guest" coward...And learn to spell correct (Maybe next time use your "Auto Correct")<br/><i>edited by Taskmaster on 1/2/2021</i></blockquote><br/><br/><br/>I got logged out but please, be clear that "Guest" was me - and you are the rancid garbage that started a sentence with "here me out how come" , so don't attack my spelling.<br/><br/>That was me, I got logged out before it was posted, if I have to I will copy and post it again to make sure you are clear it is from me - are you clear Guest was me? Good<br/><br/>Thank you for your ranting and crying, you have an anger issue you need to properly direct, before you take it into the real world and get hurt<br/><br/><br/><br/>You are all over the place, and I didn't threaten you -  your feeling threatened by the post says a lot though. It says everything I need to know about you<br/><br/><br/><br/>You see, there are a lot of us that have seen things happen to the comic market, and prices and even before the internet was a factor. If your ad wasn't printed on paper your store did not exist outside that neighborhood. We saw comics interest spike and wane, we saw speculation almost destroy the industry. It was die-cut and chromium covers, now it's 137 variant covers and homages because the content itself can't hold itself up. LOTS of different things good and bad. Some things you grumble about and move on. Almost ALL of them, in fact. <br/><br/>You need to pick something specific, and maybe take it to THEM:<br/><br/>GO ATTACK DIAMOND FOR THEIR DISTRIBUTION MODEL BECAUSE YOU MISSED THAT ONE COVER OF MY LITTLE PONY<br/>GO ATTACK VALIANT FOR RUINING THE EXACTLY ONE UNIVERSE WHERE CONTINUITY MATTERED BECAUSE YOU CAN'T UNLOAD PSI-LORDS #1<br/>GO ATTACK MARVEL AND DC FOR THEIR CONSTANT UNIVERSAL REBOOTS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T UNLOAD NEW UNIVERSAL TITLES<br/>GO ATTACK MARVEL AND DC FOR BEING MARVEL AND DC BECAUSE YOU LEARNED THERE ARE INDEPENDENT TITLES<br/>GO ATTACK CGC FOR THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE AND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ON YOUR EBAY BUSINESS A DECADE AFTER YOU SOLD THOSE CARDS UNGRADED<br/>GO ATTACK ECONOMICS FOR SUPPLY AND DEMAND AND MARKETING<br/>GO ATTACK HISTORY FOR FADS AND TRENDS<br/><br/>Just. Stop. Attacking. Here. <br/><br/><br/><br/>Look, man - we discuss things here. I have thrown my two cents in the whole Ebay Isn't A Price Guide discussion ( Spoiler: IT ISN'T ) and might have complained once too, about a trend I didn't like<br/>ONCE<br/><br/>Stop before you are banned, and the only outlet you have is closed off to you. You need to stop complaining about free services, about how economics work, how people work, and about airplane food. We heard it all before, and at least once from  you. Say it and move on before you hurt yourself, or get hurt.<br/><br/>Peace,<br/>CaptGrelden<br/><br/>Not threatening you but letting you know you seriously do need your ass kicked, man]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[I just saw another "Hot" book that is now turning into "Short Print Run" on E-Bay for big $$$$ when will people learn...<br/><br/><br/>This one was once again a "Common" book that wasn't in demand OR short printed but now it is I guess...WOW!]]></description>
<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2021 20:07:08 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Defiant1</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><blockquote>Taskmaster:<br/><br/> You need to get to the bottom of this problem of yours. Then, get the help you need. You are the Comic Collector version of an Incel, but we can't tell if you are bitching because you sold stuff too soon or too late, or if you missed a spike , etc. All we know, is that you lost big or lost consistently, and bitch about it. You take this too far, being in the Home of CPG and ranting about them, while still expecting someone to fetch you a drink. <br/><br/> Look - I bought Lady Death 1 and sold it like 2 weeks later for $100 - are you going to threaten to fight me over this? Or are you the guy that thinks having 37 variant covers of any comic book issue is a good thing?<br/><br/>"I don't see"<br/>"I don't get"<br/>"Why"<br/>"How come"<br/><br/>You may be in the wrong business or hobby, if there is more in it that baffles you or enrages you, than makes you happy. Just read your flarkin comics, sell what you can and if you can't sell your comics maybe you have crap comics. If you don't get how {Insert whatever item/thing} Market works, stay away. Complaining that you don't get it only serves to remind us all that you keep talking about it but don't get it. <br/><br/>Stop bitching that you missed a trend and those comics you banked on aren't hot any more. Stop bitching because you missed buying a hot comic, or one that became hot later. Stop being that guy PISSED at "The Industry" because his 137 copies of Superman #75 just aren't considered collateral for a home loan. <br/><br/>It's A Market - things that are new have a specific value when sold, after that it's completely up to good old supply/demand. Guess what? It's not going to be what you think or expect. As long as you keep reminding everyone that you are surprised and don't get it, you are going to keep being told NO CRAP<br/><br/>oh and let me get this out of the way- eBay is not a price guide - so as long as you keep bitching about what people at eBay will pay for a comic book, you don't understand anything and forfeit any arguments concerning comic books and Economics<br/><br/><br/>Let me know if I missed anything...</blockquote><br/><br/>I think you are being a little hard on the guy. The publishers are using every trick in their short play book to make comics seem collectible AND sabotage the back issue market at the same time. The odds are completely against profitable speculation on new comics. I would not even consider it.</blockquote><br/><br/><br/>I see what you have to go thru Defiant people are like sheep and don't want to care about anything but themselves and **** everybody else...WOW! on they THREATEN you like they are some sort of "Supreme Being" <br/><br/>People don't see the "Real" picture just what they want to and they will harp on that....WOW! <br/><br/>And this guy can't even put a name just "Guest" coward...And learn to spell correct (Maybe next time use your "Auto Correct")<br/><i>edited by Taskmaster on 1/2/2021</i>]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2021 18:24:02 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Taskmaster:<br/><br/> You need to get to the bottom of this problem of yours. Then, get the help you need. You are the Comic Collector version of an Incel, but we can't tell if you are bitching because you sold stuff too soon or too late, or if you missed a spike , etc. All we know, is that you lost big or lost consistently, and bitch about it. You take this too far, being in the Home of CPG and ranting about them, while still expecting someone to fetch you a drink. <br/><br/> Look - I bought Lady Death 1 and sold it like 2 weeks later for $100 - are you going to threaten to fight me over this? Or are you the guy that thinks having 37 variant covers of any comic book issue is a good thing?<br/><br/>"I don't see"<br/>"I don't get"<br/>"Why"<br/>"How come"<br/><br/>You may be in the wrong business or hobby, if there is more in it that baffles you or enrages you, than makes you happy. Just read your flarkin comics, sell what you can and if you can't sell your comics maybe you have crap comics. If you don't get how {Insert whatever item/thing} Market works, stay away. Complaining that you don't get it only serves to remind us all that you keep talking about it but don't get it. <br/><br/>Stop bitching that you missed a trend and those comics you banked on aren't hot any more. Stop bitching because you missed buying a hot comic, or one that became hot later. Stop being that guy PISSED at "The Industry" because his 137 copies of Superman #75 just aren't considered collateral for a home loan. <br/><br/>It's A Market - things that are new have a specific value when sold, after that it's completely up to good old supply/demand. Guess what? It's not going to be what you think or expect. As long as you keep reminding everyone that you are surprised and don't get it, you are going to keep being told NO CRAP<br/><br/>oh and let me get this out of the way- eBay is not a price guide - so as long as you keep bitching about what people at eBay will pay for a comic book, you don't understand anything and forfeit any arguments concerning comic books and Economics<br/><br/><br/>Let me know if I missed anything...</blockquote><br/><br/>I think you are being a little hard on the guy. The publishers are using every trick in their short play book to make comics seem collectible AND sabotage the back issue market at the same time. The odds are completely against profitable speculation on new comics. I would not even consider it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Taskmaster:<br/><br/> You need to get to the bottom of this problem of yours. Then, get the help you need. You are the Comic Collector version of an Incel, but we can't tell if you are bitching because you sold stuff too soon or too late, or if you missed a spike , etc. All we know, is that you lost big or lost consistently, and bitch about it. You take this too far, being in the Home of CPG and ranting about them, while still expecting someone to fetch you a drink. <br/><br/> Look - I bought Lady Death 1 and sold it like 2 weeks later for $100 - are you going to threaten to fight me over this? Or are you the guy that thinks having 37 variant covers of any comic book issue is a good thing?<br/><br/>"I don't see"<br/>"I don't get"<br/>"Why"<br/>"How come"<br/><br/>You may be in the wrong business or hobby, if there is more in it that baffles you or enrages you, than makes you happy. Just read your flarkin comics, sell what you can and if you can't sell your comics maybe you have crap comics. If you don't get how {Insert whatever item/thing} Market works, stay away. Complaining that you don't get it only serves to remind us all that you keep talking about it but don't get it. <br/><br/>Stop bitching that you missed a trend and those comics you banked on aren't hot any more. Stop bitching because you missed buying a hot comic, or one that became hot later. Stop being that guy PISSED at "The Industry" because his 137 copies of Superman #75 just aren't considered collateral for a home loan. <br/><br/>It's A Market - things that are new have a specific value when sold, after that it's completely up to good old supply/demand. Guess what? It's not going to be what you think or expect. As long as you keep reminding everyone that you are surprised and don't get it, you are going to keep being told NO CRAP<br/><br/>oh and let me get this out of the way- eBay is not a price guide - so as long as you keep bitching about what people at eBay will pay for a comic book, you don't understand anything and forfeit any arguments concerning comic books and Economics<br/><br/>Let me know if I missed anything...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Defiant1</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><b>Defiant1</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>I found out he was selling comics I preordered to other customers. He'd tell me the delivery was shorted. Sometimes he'd reorder the books I want, but sometimes the distributor was sold out and I wouldn't get what I ordered. When I found out what he was doing, I quit buying new comics.</blockquote><br/><br/><br/><br/>See this is what I have a problem with I guess I look at it different as a "hobby" not a business It's amazing how people don't care about anything and think it's "Foolish" until they sell them $$$$ signs.<br/><br/>Pathetic I live in world where I do get deals and I come across NORMAL dealers who don't have to make $$$$$ or $2-5 books they have $1 boxes for that...<img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><br/><br/>I've sold part of my double collection for a fair price I didn't need to get $3 for a COMMON $2 book.<br/><br/>I don't see the real reason why people do that? Just to be greedy?? maybe but I've gotten online and in two stores by me that have been around for over 25 years and they sell those books for a $1 or less.<br/><br/>One of the owners said they buy a collection pick thru  the good stuff  then sell books like that for $1 or less guess what he say's if we was to charge full price for those he'd still have books that he bought 10 years ago in his store...<img src="images/smilies/smile.gif" border=0 alt="smile" /><br/><br/><br/>In a world where people want to get good deals and not get taken thru the ringer it makes me laugh that there is alot of people that charge full price or more for their collections which is a joke...But who am I or they sell the books for full price and the grade is not a 9.4 (People REALLY need to understand that system) but I digress I didn't do that when I sold but some people do..</blockquote><br/><br/><br/><br/>I knew exactly why he was screwing me over. I sifted<br/> through Previews and picked out comics I thought were interesting. A <br/>lazy customer saw the comic I ordered and the retailer figured he could <br/>get a new customer interested in a comic by selling him the one I <br/>ordered. He wasn't getting rich off of comics. He was hoping to squeeze <br/>out a few extra sales and he hoped I wouldn't find out what he was <br/>doing. He also made more money off of selling it to someone else because<br/> he offered me a stupid high discount on what I ordered. That exactly <br/>why I didn't take the offer. I didn't want him to resent the offer he'd <br/>made me. <br/><br/><br/>You bring up a different issue. The retailer will still get stuck with those $2-$5 books that he's trying to sell for a dollar. Not all of them, but he'll still get stuck with many.<br/>In the grand scheme of things, selling books valued at $5 for $1 negatively affects the perceived value of comics as a hole.<br/><br/>I will digress and tell a story from my youth when I worked in retail. I was really good at what i did, so one day I get assigned to manage a dairy department. I'd never ordered perishables. The previous guy was training me. <br/><br/>He rattled off numbers about what sells and what doesn't. When he got to Half-and-Half he said... "This is inconsistent. Sometimes it sells out, sometimes people don't buy any of it."  He told me that if it didn't start selling the day he stocked it, he would mark it down to half price with orange stickers the day BEFORE it went out of date. When he moved on and i took over, I used his advice. What i discovered was that I might sell one uunit at half price and still end up throwing out the rest of the product in the shelf. I was trying to cut losses and it bothered me that selling one at a discount guaranteed a loss on everything. I realized that I would have been better off not discounting the one. The person who needed  would have paid full price since it was still good and at least the loss wouldn't be as bad. I decided to see how many I could sell at full price up until the last date of sale. What I discovered is that the shelf sold out if i didn't mark them down the day before they went out of date. The orange "half price" stickers were scaring the customers away because they thought something was wrong with it. <br/><br/><br/>You know a good deal when you see one evidently, but many people (myself included) see dollar boxes and think it's not worth their time. To some degree, my snobbish preconception is completely valid because the retailer has already devalued the product and said it's not worth his time to price them out at a fair market value. He's already telling the customer that the inventory isn't worth what the price guides say it is. In the larger scale of things, customers are deciding that comics don't hold value. Anytime a comic is sold for less than cover price, it sends out a non-verbal message that comics are not worth what the retail price shows on the cover. It doesn't matter that they lost money on what they sold, it still tells the customer that the product is overpriced. Psychologically, that runs off customers and deters them from spending money that would make the overall hobby more successful. If a $5 comic on the new comics shelf was still going to be worth $5 in 6 months, don't you think more customers would be interested in buying the product. We saw that in the 90's. Price increases spur confidence in the product and sales increased geometrically.  <br/><br/><br/>The behavior of poor business decisions at all levels of the hobby.... from publisher down to retailer.... are one of the main reason sales have dropped so low. DC is on the verge of ceasing all publications. I don't keep up with the state of current comics anymore, but I recently ran into Ethan Van Sciver (sp?) on a social media site and read some of the things he's been saying and watched a video or two he's made. He really paints a bad picture for DC. <br/><br/><br/>If those dealers quit selling $5 comics for a dollar, it would instill more confidence in the consumer and those $5 books might legitimately be worth $10. If you had bought a $5 comic and saw it increase in value and saw that you could easily sell it for a profit, wouldn't you be more willing to buy more comics? <br/><br/><br/>As I stated previously, when comics go up in value it is due to a self-fulfilling prophecy among collectors that the comics should be worth more and are worthy of owning at a higher price. Dollar boxes inspire people on a budget, but it also keeps their collections having a low market value and it guarantees that they will be harder to sell 5 years from now if you have unplanned financial catastrophe. <br/><br/><br/>Defiant1</blockquote><br/><br/>Long and drawn out but I'll make it simple and get to the POINT<br/><br/>So you mean to tell me that if for instance I found a copy of Amazing Fantasy #15  for $500 and it was 9.4 the person selling that book will "Ruin" the pricing for that book?<br/><br/>What about that same book I find in my grandmother's attic and I get it for nothing does that "ruin" the hobby?? No it doesn't your trying to make excuses on PRIVATE collector's trying to sell ALL of their books (Even the garbage one's) for FULL price??  That doesn't happen in the retail world so why should it here?? <br/><br/>I don't think buying $3-10 comics for a couple of dollars is going to stop the world from turning I just see people being GREEDY bottom line...MANY a people sell their books for not full book and the world goes a spinning still....And people need to UNDERSTAND what GRADING is and how it DOES play a part into price...tooo many people have NO clue...<br/><i>edited by Taskmaster on 1/2/2021</i>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><b>Defiant1</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>I found out he was selling comics I preordered to other customers. He'd tell me the delivery was shorted. Sometimes he'd reorder the books I want, but sometimes the distributor was sold out and I wouldn't get what I ordered. When I found out what he was doing, I quit buying new comics.</blockquote><br/><br/><br/><br/>See this is what I have a problem with I guess I look at it different as a "hobby" not a business It's amazing how people don't care about anything and think it's "Foolish" until they sell them $$$$ signs.<br/><br/>Pathetic I live in world where I do get deals and I come across NORMAL dealers who don't have to make $$$$$ or $2-5 books they have $1 boxes for that...<img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><br/><br/>I've sold part of my double collection for a fair price I didn't need to get $3 for a COMMON $2 book.<br/><br/>I don't see the real reason why people do that? Just to be greedy?? maybe but I've gotten online and in two stores by me that have been around for over 25 years and they sell those books for a $1 or less.<br/><br/>One of the owners said they buy a collection pick thru  the good stuff  then sell books like that for $1 or less guess what he say's if we was to charge full price for those he'd still have books that he bought 10 years ago in his store...<img src="images/smilies/smile.gif" border=0 alt="smile" /><br/><br/><br/>In a world where people want to get good deals and not get taken thru the ringer it makes me laugh that there is alot of people that charge full price or more for their collections which is a joke...But who am I or they sell the books for full price and the grade is not a 9.4 (People REALLY need to understand that system) but I digress I didn't do that when I sold but some people do..</blockquote><br/><br/><br/><br/>I knew exactly why he was screwing me over. I sifted<br/> through Previews and picked out comics I thought were interesting. A <br/>lazy customer saw the comic I ordered and the retailer figured he could <br/>get a new customer interested in a comic by selling him the one I <br/>ordered. He wasn't getting rich off of comics. He was hoping to squeeze <br/>out a few extra sales and he hoped I wouldn't find out what he was <br/>doing. He also made more money off of selling it to someone else because<br/> he offered me a stupid high discount on what I ordered. That exactly <br/>why I didn't take the offer. I didn't want him to resent the offer he'd <br/>made me. <br/><br/><br/>You bring up a different issue. The retailer will still get stuck with those $2-$5 books that he's trying to sell for a dollar. Not all of them, but he'll still get stuck with many.<br/>In the grand scheme of things, selling books valued at $5 for $1 negatively affects the perceived value of comics as a hole.<br/><br/>I will digress and tell a story from my youth when I worked in retail. I was really good at what i did, so one day I get assigned to manage a dairy department. I'd never ordered perishables. The previous guy was training me. <br/><br/>He rattled off numbers about what sells and what doesn't. When he got to Half-and-Half he said... "This is inconsistent. Sometimes it sells out, sometimes people don't buy any of it."  He told me that if it didn't start selling the day he stocked it, he would mark it down to half price with orange stickers the day BEFORE it went out of date. When he moved on and i took over, I used his advice. What i discovered was that I might sell one uunit at half price and still end up throwing out the rest of the product in the shelf. I was trying to cut losses and it bothered me that selling one at a discount guaranteed a loss on everything. I realized that I would have been better off not discounting the one. The person who needed  would have paid full price since it was still good and at least the loss wouldn't be as bad. I decided to see how many I could sell at full price up until the last date of sale. What I discovered is that the shelf sold out if i didn't mark them down the day before they went out of date. The orange "half price" stickers were scaring the customers away because they thought something was wrong with it. <br/><br/><br/>You know a good deal when you see one evidently, but many people (myself included) see dollar boxes and think it's not worth their time. To some degree, my snobbish preconception is completely valid because the retailer has already devalued the product and said it's not worth his time to price them out at a fair market value. He's already telling the customer that the inventory isn't worth what the price guides say it is. In the larger scale of things, customers are deciding that comics don't hold value. Anytime a comic is sold for less than cover price, it sends out a non-verbal message that comics are not worth what the retail price shows on the cover. It doesn't matter that they lost money on what they sold, it still tells the customer that the product is overpriced. Psychologically, that runs off customers and deters them from spending money that would make the overall hobby more successful. If a $5 comic on the new comics shelf was still going to be worth $5 in 6 months, don't you think more customers would be interested in buying the product. We saw that in the 90's. Price increases spur confidence in the product and sales increased geometrically.  <br/><br/><br/>The behavior of poor business decisions at all levels of the hobby.... from publisher down to retailer.... are one of the main reason sales have dropped so low. DC is on the verge of ceasing all publications. I don't keep up with the state of current comics anymore, but I recently ran into Ethan Van Sciver (sp?) on a social media site and read some of the things he's been saying and watched a video or two he's made. He really paints a bad picture for DC. <br/><br/><br/>If those dealers quit selling $5 comics for a dollar, it would instill more confidence in the consumer and those $5 books might legitimately be worth $10. If you had bought a $5 comic and saw it increase in value and saw that you could easily sell it for a profit, wouldn't you be more willing to buy more comics? <br/><br/><br/>As I stated previously, when comics go up in value it is due to a self-fulfilling prophecy among collectors that the comics should be worth more and are worthy of owning at a higher price. Dollar boxes inspire people on a budget, but it also keeps their collections having a low market value and it guarantees that they will be harder to sell 5 years from now if you have unplanned financial catastrophe. <br/><br/><br/>Defiant1]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Defiant1</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>I found out he was selling comics I preordered to other customers. He'd tell me the delivery was shorted. Sometimes he'd reorder the books I want, but sometimes the distributor was sold out and I wouldn't get what I ordered. When I found out what he was doing, I quit buying new comics.</blockquote><br/><br/><br/><br/>See this is what I have a problem with I guess I look at it different as a "hobby" not a business It's amazing how people don't care about anything and think it's "Foolish" until they sell them $$$$ signs.<br/><br/>Pathetic I live in world where I do get deals and I come across NORMAL dealers who don't have to make $$$$$ or $2-5 books they have $1 boxes for that...<img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><br/><br/>I've sold part of my double collection for a fair price I didn't need to get $3 for a COMMON $2 book.<br/><br/>I don't see the real reason why people do that? Just to be greedy?? maybe but I've gotten online and in two stores by me that have been around for over 25 years and they sell those books for a $1 or less.<br/><br/>One of the owners said they buy a collection pick thru  the good stuff  then sell books like that for $1 or less guess what he say's if we was to charge full price for those he'd still have books that he bought 10 years ago in his store...<img src="images/smilies/smile.gif" border=0 alt="smile" /><br/><br/>In a world where people want to get good deals and not get taken thru the ringer it makes me laugh that there is alot of people that charge full price or more for their collections which is a joke...But who am I or they sell the books for full price and the grade is not a 9.4 (People REALLY need to understand that system) but I digress I didn't do that when I sold but some people do..]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><blockquote>Let's say you run a comics business. Collectors come in the door and they want some new hot book. Let's say you ordered extra and had a few copies on the shelf. The first one, you sell for cover price. The collector smiles. He buys it and walks out of the store. A second collector shows up and wants it. You sell it for cover price. You call the distributor and discover it's not available for reorder. Now there is a dilemma. <br/><br/><br/>If you sell out, you are going to send your customers to the competitor down the street or to online retailers. It's a hot book. If you want to restock it and make money on the sale, you have to buy it from someone who charges more than your distributor. If you are lucky and can buy it back from a customer at the same price he paid. If you do, you just negated all profits you made on the previous two comics you sold. In order to make any money, a retailer has to mark it up. They are going to mark it up to what the market will bear. If the retailer likes the cycle of buying comics back at the same price he paid for them, he might only mark it up only 20%. That would be 20% over the escalated price he had to pay to restock it and make it available. Normally it will be higher than 20%. It's not unreasonable for a hot book to double in price after stores start selling out. Restocking that comic usually costs them more. <br/><br/><br/>They have two choices at that point. They either buy it back at the "going price" and charge double <u>or</u> just sell out and watch their customers go to their competitor to get what they want.  <br/><br/><br/>Technically, they are in business to sell comics that their customers want. It's a lot smarter to restock and increase the price than it is to sell out and watch your customers start shopping elsewhere.</blockquote><br/><br/><br/>But the problem I have is that a BRAND NEW book who let's says retails at $3.99 or $4.99 and it sold out and is going for $25 that high for a pre-sale book?? Or one that "Sold Out" before it hit retail??? <br/><br/>You NEVER saw this years ago...I can remember buying Amazing Spider-Man #361 at retail and bought 3-4 copies and people KNEW Venom's spawn was coming it didn't go from being $1.25 to $50 or more in a short time it took awhile for that book to go up...</blockquote><br/><br/><br/><br/>It was actually quite common.<br/>I saw Superman #75 double in price 4 times within a month. It has one of the highest print runs of all comics and it was selling for $20 within a very short time span. I watched stores sell their subscribers a copy for cover price and buy them back for more than cover price within an hour. The customers were still shopping in the store and they were selling the book back just as they were leaving. The demand was so great, that the store already had customers lined up to buy them at whatever price the store would charge. The store didn't want to mark them up, but their customers were rabid and demanded a copy. <br/><br/><br/>I walked into a store That had Turok #12 priced $4 in their back issue bins. I was being nice and said... "This book is about to be very hot. You might want to increase the price because it's going to sell out and you won't be able to restock." The store manager mocked me. He said "If it's going to be hot, why don't you buy them all." I took offense with his attitude and said "Okay, I will." I bought all 4 copies they had. A few months later, when I traded "hot" Valiant comics for a copy of Amazing Fantasy #15, the convention dealer gave me $90 trade credit on each of those 4 copies I'd bought. That $12 purchase got me $360 in trade credit. <br/><br/><br/>Somewhere around 1996, customer resistance to price spikes came into play and that's when selling comics wasn't worth my time. <br/><br/><br/>I was friends with stores all over town. I could predict which books would be hot even better than the stores. They'd pick my brain to understand why my predictions were so accurate. <br/><br/>Several stores were offering me 45% off my new comic subscriptions just to get me to shop in their stores. <br/><br/><br/>I quit subscribing to new comics at a store that wanted me to have a 45% discount. I told him to only give me a 40% discount so he'd still be making something off of them. He did that, but when I was unable to show up on new comics day, I found out he was selling comics I preordered to other customers. He'd tell me the delivery was shorted. Sometimes he'd reorder the books I want, but sometimes the distributor was sold out and I wouldn't get what I ordered. When I found out what he was doing, I quit buying new comics.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Let's say you run a comics business. Collectors come in the door and they want some new hot book. Let's say you ordered extra and had a few copies on the shelf. The first one, you sell for cover price. The collector smiles. He buys it and walks out of the store. A second collector shows up and wants it. You sell it for cover price. You call the distributor and discover it's not available for reorder. Now there is a dilemma. <br/><br/><br/>If you sell out, you are going to send your customers to the competitor down the street or to online retailers. It's a hot book. If you want to restock it and make money on the sale, you have to buy it from someone who charges more than your distributor. If you are lucky and can buy it back from a customer at the same price he paid. If you do, you just negated all profits you made on the previous two comics you sold. In order to make any money, a retailer has to mark it up. They are going to mark it up to what the market will bear. If the retailer likes the cycle of buying comics back at the same price he paid for them, he might only mark it up only 20%. That would be 20% over the escalated price he had to pay to restock it and make it available. Normally it will be higher than 20%. It's not unreasonable for a hot book to double in price after stores start selling out. Restocking that comic usually costs them more. <br/><br/><br/>They have two choices at that point. They either buy it back at the "going price" and charge double <u>or</u> just sell out and watch their customers go to their competitor to get what they want.  <br/><br/><br/>Technically, they are in business to sell comics that their customers want. It's a lot smarter to restock and increase the price than it is to sell out and watch your customers start shopping elsewhere.</blockquote><br/><br/><br/>But the problem I have is that a BRAND NEW book who let's says retails at $3.99 or $4.99 and it sold out and is going for $25 that high for a pre-sale book?? Or one that "Sold Out" before it hit retail??? <br/><br/>You NEVER saw this years ago...I can remember buying Amazing Spider-Man #361 at retail and bought 3-4 copies and people KNEW Venom's spawn was coming it didn't go from being $1.25 to $50 or more in a short time it took awhile for that book to go up...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[That was me again. Strange software.<br/><br/>Defiant1]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Let's say you run a comics business. Collectors come in the door and they want some new hot book. Let's say you ordered extra and had a few copies on the shelf. The first one, you sell for cover price. The collector smiles. He buys it and walks out of the store. A second collector shows up and wants it. You sell it for cover price. You call the distributor and discover it's not available for reorder. Now there is a dilemma. <br/><br/><br/>If you sell out, you are going to send your customers to the competitor down the street or to online retailers. It's a hot book. If you want to restock it and make money on the sale, you have to buy it from someone who charges more than your distributor. If you are lucky and can buy it back from a customer at the same price he paid. If you do, you just negated all profits you made on the previous two comics you sold. In order to make any money, a retailer has to mark it up. They are going to mark it up to what the market will bear. If the retailer likes the cycle of buying comics back at the same price he paid for them, he might only mark it up only 20%. That would be 20% over the escalated price he had to pay to restock it and make it available. Normally it will be higher than 20%. It's not unreasonable for a hot book to double in price after stores start selling out. Restocking that comic usually costs them more. <br/><br/><br/>They have two choices at that point. They either buy it back at the "going price" and charge double <u>or</u> just sell out and watch their customers go to their competitor to get what they want.  <br/><br/><br/>Technically, they are in business to sell comics that their customers want. It's a lot smarter to restock and increase the price than it is to sell out and watch your customers start shopping elsewhere.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[First appearances of characters that may show up in shows/movies, storylines can have the same effect. Just do an online search for "comic book speculation" and you'll find PLENTY of sources for why certain ones that you deem common or worthless, actually have true value to a lot of collectors. This trend has been going on for decades and I have a plethora of comics that show that I'm willing to listen and at times, buy some of these same comics in hope that they do make my investment worth it. <br/><br/>After doing your research and you still feel they're worthless and not worth your time, move on to what you feel is best for your buck and leave them to those that see value in adding them to their collection.]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:34:53 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Draven68</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>Taskmaster you or someone deleted your comments before I had a chance to reply but what I understand is that this sight offers each member the opportunity to suggest a change in the value of a comic. In order for them (the moderators) to legitimately make the change on an assumed informed opinion is for the member to provide proof via a link to the website that validates their suggestion. At that point they will review the request and if deemed valid ( a reputable source), the adjustment up or down will be made. You had commented about having proof in your statement that was deleted... well provide it in your suggestion to make the price change. Everyone here is treated fairly and equal. Your opinion counts just like everyone else's, which makes the site invaluable to so many.<br/><br/>Directly from their suggested price change: <span style="color:rgb(21, 87, 36)"><span style="font-family:Geomanist, Roboto, sans-serif">YOU ARE SUGGESTING</span></span><span style="color:rgb(21, 87, 36)"><span style="font-family:Geomanist, Roboto, sans-serif"> </span></span><b>RAW VALUES</b><br/><b>You do not need to suggest each value. Please have a link to prove data.</b><br/><b>Only changed values will be submitted. Unchanged values are ignored, but factored in with enough data</b><br/>Your data will be stored in queue for review, along with your username and IP<br/>Please use the best possible data and link for the data, for us to follow up on your claim to get it worked on ASAP.<br/><u><b>DO NOT USE</b></u> other price guide resources for your claim, real completed market data is needed for us to verify<br/><i>Submitting data does not mean guaranteed or immediate approval of new values. Please do not submit the same one twice.</i><br/><br/>Sure you can complain that you don't understand why certain books go up while others don't. No one person can predict the future, just hope they're making the right decision when they make that next purchase. Accusing the moderators that they're increasing prices for no reason makes no logical sense for having this site. No one could trust them and they would lose paying members. Do your due diligence, research these sites that have proof that you deem more valid than here and compare it to others like eBay (most recent sold items, not items for sale).</blockquote><br/><br/><br/><br/>Then why did my response get "Deleted" I bring up other sites or E-Bay and instead of acknowledging it it get's ignored..I know when I'm "outed" that's fine. It's just funny that since when do "common" "Worthless" "mass produced" books jump up so high....<br/><i>edited by Taskmaster on 12/31/2020</i>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Taskmaster you or someone deleted your comments before I had a chance to reply but what I understand is that this sight offers each member the opportunity to suggest a change in the value of a comic. In order for them (the moderators) to legitimately make the change on an assumed informed opinion is for the member to provide proof via a link to the website that validates their suggestion. At that point they will review the request and if deemed valid ( a reputable source), the adjustment up or down will be made. You had commented about having proof in your statement that was deleted... well provide it in your suggestion to make the price change. Everyone here is treated fairly and equal. Your opinion counts just like everyone else's, which makes the site invaluable to so many.<br/><br/>Directly from their suggested price change: <span style="color:rgb(21, 87, 36)"><span style="font-family:Geomanist, Roboto, sans-serif">YOU ARE SUGGESTING</span></span><span style="color:rgb(21, 87, 36)"><span style="font-family:Geomanist, Roboto, sans-serif"> </span></span><b>RAW VALUES</b><br/><b>You do not need to suggest each value. Please have a link to prove data.</b><br/><b>Only changed values will be submitted. Unchanged values are ignored, but factored in with enough data</b><br/>Your data will be stored in queue for review, along with your username and IP<br/>Please use the best possible data and link for the data, for us to follow up on your claim to get it worked on ASAP.<br/><u><b>DO NOT USE</b></u> other price guide resources for your claim, real completed market data is needed for us to verify<br/><i>Submitting data does not mean guaranteed or immediate approval of new values. Please do not submit the same one twice.</i><br/><br/>Sure you can complain that you don't understand why certain books go up while others don't. No one person can predict the future, just hope they're making the right decision when they make that next purchase. Accusing the moderators that they're increasing prices for no reason makes no logical sense for having this site. No one could trust them and they would lose paying members. Do your due diligence, research these sites that have proof that you deem more valid than here and compare it to others like eBay (most recent sold items, not items for sale).]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2020 14:45:15 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<span style="color:rgb(62, 62, 62)"><span style="font-family:Geomanist, Roboto, sans-serif">I guess I was always ahead of the curve on getting books before they got hot. I was buying 1st appearances and key issues back in the 70's while my best friend was more concerned that he had issues of the Human Fly. I think I had to talk him into getting a Hulk #181 back then and it's now his most valuable comic. Maybe that's why he quit collecting 40 years ago?! I picked up a Tales To Astonish #13 months before I even knew Marvel was using him in Guardians of the Galaxy. Needless to say, that book skyrocketed in price after I bought it.</span></span><br/><br/><br/><span style="color:rgb(62, 62, 62)"><span style="font-family:Geomanist, Roboto, sans-serif">I think it's very easy to get too immersed in just reading comics and you lose an eye for what is significant. Contrary to popular belief, you can be a comic readers AND a speculator. You can buy comics worth reading that will be hot some day. You just have to be a little more picky on how you spend your money.</span></span><br/><br/><span style="color:rgb(62, 62, 62)"><span style="font-family:Geomanist, Roboto, sans-serif">I stepped away from conics entirely for 10 years which really gave me a better perspective on what is going to be a better long term investment. In 1980, you could spend the exact same amount on a minty fresh New Teen Titans #1 from the 80's or a lower grade Iron Man #1 from the late 60's. I don't even like Iron Man #1, but it was a helluva a lot better long term investment than that extremely hot New Teen Titans comic at the time. Jump ahead 10 years and that Iron Man comic increased in value 10-fold or more. The Teen Titans comic was back in dollar boxes. I know it's rebounded more since then, but my point is, you have to develop an instinct if you want to buy comics before they go up.</span></span><br/><br/><br/><span style="color:rgb(62, 62, 62)"><span style="font-family:Geomanist, Roboto, sans-serif">When everyone is flocking towards the current hot comic, don't be so easily tempted to follow the crowd.</span></span><br/><br/><br/><span style="color:rgb(62, 62, 62)"><span style="font-family:Geomanist, Roboto, sans-serif">For comics to go up at all, it is to a large degree a self-fulfilling prophesy. People have to collective believe a comic will go up in value before they are willing to pay extra to get it.</span></span><br/><br/><span style="color:rgb(62, 62, 62)"><span style="font-family:Geomanist, Roboto, sans-serif">It has little or nothing to do with the story or art quality. It has to do with the significance of the events within and how it inspires readers and future creators.</span></span><br/><br/><span style="color:rgb(62, 62, 62)"><span style="font-family:Geomanist, Roboto, sans-serif">I believe in Thor #225 (1st Firelord). I think it still has potential but, no writers are using the character. All my belief in that book means nothing if someone writing for Marvel doesn't carry the torch and use him in their stories. Most of the modern comics people flock after today wil have price spikes, and then be forgotten.</span></span><br/><br/><span style="color:rgb(62, 62, 62)"><span style="font-family:Geomanist, Roboto, sans-serif">You can try to speculate on modern comics, but there are 50 duds for every comic that actually increases in value. It's not worth the risk. Of those that spike, most will be forgotten within 18 months (or be unsalable in that time span).</span></span><br/><br/><span style="color:rgb(62, 62, 62)"><span style="font-family:Geomanist, Roboto, sans-serif">It's not worth getting upset or frustrated, because the people flipping this for escalated prices are really just recovering losses they took on other purchases.</span></span><br/><br/><br/><span style="color:rgb(62, 62, 62)"><span style="font-family:Geomanist, Roboto, sans-serif">It's better to find a comic that has already proven itself over time.</span></span><br/><br/>Defiant1<br/><i>edited by ronbatman on 12/31/2020</i>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Taskmaster, (shaking my head) oh, Taskmaster.<br/>You have made some baseless accusations about our pricing. "Where are you getting these prices from", "possibility" pricing, is it "real".  The insinuations that you are making are pissing me off and the entire staff of CPG.  We work diligently and take pricing very seriously.  We don't makeup numbers or speculate or change prices on "possibility".  We use real data, unlike the random things that you are currently spewing. Anyone can say these are fake prices when you aren't doing the hard work of pricing comics.  You have given zero evidence that the price changes we made aren't accurate, zero!  You've given your opinion but no evidence that refutes our price changes.  I encourage you to go look at our new value changes and examine them with real-world sales data.<br/><br/>"They should come up with an explanation on WHY these books are hot and why..."<br/>ROTFL  I'm constantly surprised at how much free members want in addition to the free price guide.  Can you come over and paint my house for free?  Oh, your time has value?  Shocking!  <br/><br/>Please be very careful with your next comments about our site because you are on the edge. <br/>Ron<br/><i>edited by ronbatman on 12/31/2020</i>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>shavagonew </b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>Not quite sure why you are so upset.  Do you feel obligated to buy a comic because this site says its one to look for?  Because there are a whole lot of other ones out there.  Speculators have always been a part of this industry,  And most of the time, if I don't already own a certain comic, I just go "oh well, guess I will wait until the price drops" if its something I actually want.  Just not quite understanding your rage because certain books are selling for higher prices because of a tv show, or movie, or character reintroduction, or whatever.</blockquote><br/><br/><br/>No because they changed the way it's done it never appeared from nowhere to like a $25 + book...I used to see a run of these for what price they are/were listed...Now it's seem like they are gauging the sale of these books based on E-Bay and the "Possibility" of this book exploding for big $$$$ which it is WILL if the jump in price in "real" over time across all boards and all outlets to gauge what it REALLY is.<br/><br/>And alot of times I need some of those books but they are too much to pay for a filler book for me (Look at the Spider-Man villain Corona) makes no sense why that book went as high at it did...<br/><br/>And where are they finding the inside scoop for these books? Some we know about via tv or movies but others having me scratching my head as to why it is what it is?<br/><br/>They should come up with an explanation on WHY these books are hot are why...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Not quite sure why you are so upset.  Do you feel obligated to buy a comic because this site says its one to look for?  Because there are a whole lot of other ones out there.  Speculators have always been a part of this industry,  And most of the time, if I don't already own a certain comic, I just go "oh well, guess I will wait until the price drops" if its something I actually want.  Just not quite understanding your rage because certain books are selling for higher prices because of a tv show, or movie, or character reintroduction, or whatever.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Ronbatman</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>Really??? Where here or in the real world??<br/><br/>I seen some decent prices on E-Bay NOT what your reporting which is way too high...</blockquote><br/><br/>Spend the time figuring all the NM values not VF or other conditions then tell me what you think the price for Vote Loki #1 should be. We have $22 based on finished auctions.<br/>The range for NM books is $30 down to $19.<br/>R<br/><i>edited by ronbatman on 12/30/2020</i></blockquote><br/><br/><br/>I actually bought one for $8 shipped...Like I said it's SPECULATION that this book MIGHT go up how many times did a trailer give value to something that NEVER showed up in the tv and or movie??<br/><br/>Look at my example of Spectacular Spider-Man #176 it went up BECAUSE	of the name of the villain Corona because of the Corona Virus....Now where is that book???]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>Really??? Where here or in the real world??<br/><br/>I seen some decent prices on E-Bay NOT what your reporting which is way too high...</blockquote><br/><br/>Spend the time figuring all the NM values not VF or other conditions then tell me what you think the price for Vote Loki #1 should be.  We have $22 based on finished auctions.<br/>The range for NM books is $30 down to $19.<br/>R<br/><i>edited by ronbatman on 12/30/2020</i>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>rustyauger</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><b>BasementComics</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote> I don't get it a little heads up BEFORE it goes up thru the roof would be nice. </blockquote><br/><br/><br/>When they update the Value Changes they are giving you a heads-up</blockquote><br/><br/>In the past the same book that is/was $3-4 was a "watch it book" it didn't go up to $25 or more before anything happened that happens alot now "Heresay"<br/><br/>Does Spectacular Spider-Man #176 ring a bell?? "Speculation" and "Heresay" what's that book worth now?? Okay....<br/><i>edited by Taskmaster on 12/30/2020</i>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><b>BasementComics</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote> I don't get it a little heads up BEFORE it goes up thru the roof would be nice. </blockquote><br/><br/><br/>When they update the Value Changes they are giving you a heads-up]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Ronbatman</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>OK here me out how come ALOT of the "Hot" books that NO ONE KNEW about and were like $3-4 etc. are now $25 or more???<br/><br/>WTF?? Where are you guys getting your info??? It would be nice to know ahead of time instead of paying thru the ass for a books that was $3-4 a couple days earlier....WTF??</blockquote><br/><br/><br/>Taskmaster, we are reporting sales data not predicting what book will be hot.  So people buy a book and we report on it.  Someone knew.  For the Loki book, a Disney trailer showed Hiddleston with a "vote Loki" button, looking identical to the cover of issue 1.  That sparked a buying frenzy.<br/>R</blockquote><br/><br/><br/><br/>Really??? Where here or in the real world??<br/><br/>I seen some decent prices on E-Bay NOT what your reporting which is way too high...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>BasementComics</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>I know Ron has written about Star Wars and other series seriously heating up.  I am on eBay daily and I can see these books are skyrocketing based on sales out data.  If demand far exceeds supply, that will continue to drive costs up.</blockquote><br/><br/>I get Boba Fett and Asoka and Thrawn but the Legends characters like Darth Bane,Mara Jade etc. I don't get it a little heads up BEFORE it goes up thru the roof would be nice..And why is Transformes #1 going high for what??? <br/><br/>I just don't get it used to be a "Look out for" then it hit NOW it seems like the book that was Worthless and keep an eye on is going for $25-30 NOW???? How can something you "Keep an eye on" that never was on here is going BIG dollars ahead of a tv movie etc? <br/><br/>I guess alot of people are not in the "loop" if they were they couldn't get the deals...Why have that happen then?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>OK here me out how come ALOT of the "Hot" books that NO ONE KNEW about and were like $3-4 etc. are now $25 or more???<br/><br/>WTF?? Where are you guys getting your info??? It would be nice to know ahead of time instead of paying thru the ass for a books that was $3-4 a couple days earlier....WTF??</blockquote><br/><br/><br/>Taskmaster, we are reporting sales data not predicting what book will be hot.  So people buy a book and we report on it.  Someone knew.  For the Loki book, a Disney trailer showed Hiddleston with a "vote Loki" button, looking identical to the cover of issue 1.  That sparked a buying frenzy.<br/>R]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[I know Ron has written about Star Wars and other series seriously heating up.  I am on eBay daily and I can see these books are skyrocketing based on sales out data.  If demand far exceeds supply, that will continue to drive costs up.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[OK here me out how come ALOT of the "Hot" books that NO ONE KNEW about and were like $3-4 etc. are now $25 or more???<br/><br/>WTF?? Where are you guys getting your info??? It would be nice to know ahead of time instead of paying thru the ass for a books that was $3-4 a couple days earlier....WTF??]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[I use a lot of security related add-ons which breaks the functionality of some sites. I used to log out of social media sites by deleting cookies. It was faster than finding the logout button. Facebook & Twitter think I'm a robot. I'm not using either now.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2020 16:13:38 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[The site logs me out all the time. It's been a glitch on and off for years.]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2020 10:49:11 GMT</pubDate>
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<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2020 12:10:27 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>rustyauger</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>Well I am going to my local comic store right now to hopefully make a trade. <br/><br/>I buy comics from lots of places besides Ebay but the rules of the free market exist there as well <img src="images/smilies/wink.gif" border=0 alt="wink" /></blockquote><br/><br/>No really??? I  can't believe people do NOT want to admit that ALOT of people are fair on prices on ALL books and everyone is not a robber who charges FULL price or higher...but I digress...Keep beating that dead horse...<img src="images/smilies/flogging.gif" border="0" alt="Flog dead topic" />]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Well I am going to my local comic store right now to hopefully make a trade. <br/><br/>I buy comics from lots of places besides Ebay but the rules of the free market exist there as well <img src="images/smilies/wink.gif" border=0 alt="wink" />]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2020 12:14:43 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>rustyauger</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><b>rustyauger</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>I think if Taskmaster should be mad at anyone it should be Adam Smith</blockquote><br/><br/>And that's relevant how??<br/><br/></blockquote><br/><br/><br/>Because you are continually irritated by the fundamental laws of capitalism as if they shouldn't apply to your precious comic collecting hobby.</blockquote><br/><br/><br/><br/>NO because people like you think that everyone is out to screw everyone else by charging FULL PRICE FOR EVERYTHING! When they don't if you actually bought a lot of books from different sources besides E-Bay MAYBE you would get that...<br/><br/>I love how people "Comment" on something without using the FULL spectrum just a small tidbit of it...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><b>rustyauger</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>I think if Taskmaster should be mad at anyone it should be Adam Smith</blockquote><br/><br/>And that's relevant how??<br/><br/></blockquote><br/><br/><br/>Because you are continually irritated by the fundamental laws of capitalism as if they shouldn't apply to your precious comic collecting hobby.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[The brick and mortar stores are struggling. The pandemic just killed one in my area that had been open for over 25 years. They flush comics out due to desperation. They are paying thousands of dollars a month on fixed operating costs. Their attitude (if they're smart) is to sell their backstock for whatever they can get. Unless they have capital to flip high dollar and highly collectible comics, most of their back issue bins are dead inventory. I liked the people who ran the local store that closed, but they literally had nothing in their back issue bins that I wanted. They had no display books that I wanted. Pardon my language, but most of the back issues were the same unsold crap that I didn't want 15 years ago. They made all of their operating cash off of pre-ordered new books for subscribers. That is why the pandemic killed their store. <br/><br/><br/>Not everyone buying back issues has the luxury of hopping in the car and driving to a store every week. They live too far from a store, or like me, none of the local stores have the back issues they want. They rely on eBay. <br/><br/><br/>Stores in my area always had the attitude that if a comic had been in their back issue bin unsold for a year, that they were lucky to get anything they could get. They knew it was creating goodwill with the loyal customers that shopped their store every week and they knew people like me would drop in once a year just to look through their backstock and see if there was a bargain. <br/><br/><br/>Publishers don't actively promote the stores.<br/>Distributors don't actively promote the store.<br/>All of the marketing and self-promotion for a store is the responsibility of the stores themselves. <br/><br/> Giving discounts and not marking comics up is the easiest way to positively promote the store without pulling money out of their monthly sales income. <br/><br/>Is that an effective way to make money and run a sustainable business? No.<br/>It's done out of desperation.<br/><br/><br/>This same store that closed was paying for a storage bay to store all of their unsold comics in the 90's. It was costing them so much money that they opted to just quit paying for the storage and they abandoned the comics. I only know because the storage warehouse put out an ad to sell the comics in lieu of the unpaid rent. A friend of mine bought everything for pennies on the dollar. The time and effort to get the real value out of their back issues wasn't worth it. <br/><br/><br/>I have comics to sell, but it's not worth my time and effort. I'm working 50 hours a week in my regular job with no apparent limitation on overtime. I can sell older back issues for a huge profit margin and I'd still not be making as much as I could if I just worked more overtime. If I choose between selling comics online or just working an extra hour of overtime, working the overtime is a wiser way for me to make money. I had an offer for an Amazing Spider-Man #300 I own and I'd be making about 95% profit if I sold it. Even that is not worth it to me because of the hassle and the fact I value my spare time off of work and the opportunity to do nothing. <br/><br/><br/>Defiant1]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>rustyauger</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>I think if Taskmaster should be mad at anyone it should be Adam Smith</blockquote><br/><br/>And that's relevant how??<br/><br/>See this is the problem when I buy comics from brick & mortar stores they have GREAT deals on books and MOST of their collection is NOT full price on EVERY book...See they get if you sit on a $3 book your never going to sell it sell it  for $1 and it's gone you made SOMETHING and the buyer is happy he got a book for UNDER book (Key Word People)<br/><br/>I buy/bought books from people that wanted something out of it and were NOT so lazy that they had to charge FULL price for "Common" books...<img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><br/><br/>I've gotten GREAT Deals on thousands of books everywhere and it only when it comes to E-Bay or that uninformed idiot who is going to mortgage the house to overpay for ONE comic...Seen it a MILLION times...<img src="images/smilies/wink.gif" border=0 alt="wink" /><br/><i>edited by Taskmaster on 12/21/2020</i>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 10:09:04 GMT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><b>Defiant1</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>It's also funny that a series that is not worth anything doesn't show up and being for sale then when the series hits the roof then these books "Magically" appear.....<img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><br/><br/>Yea what are the odds that this is a coincidence...<img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><br/><br/><i>edited by Taskmaster on 12/19/2020</i></blockquote><br/><br/>That's pretty much true of anything. Once there's an opportunity to make a higher profit margin, sellers will capitalize on the opportunity. <br/><br/>I've got around 10,000 comics. I'm not going to waste time digging out a copy of something that only make me $2 profit. My time is worth more than that. If I can get $20 profit off of something, that's worth my time.</blockquote><br/><br/><br/><br/>Right and that's my point there are books here that are WORTHLESS but once they go up to $5-10 then there is alot of listings for the same book...Or people listing it WAY over book because it's what "they" think is the price....Gotta love some people....<img src="images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)" /></blockquote><br/><br/>What?<br/>I'm one of those people. That is why I own an Amazing Fantasy #15. I took comics that got hot and traded up. <br/><br/><br/>That is how books go up in value. Someone takes the effort to dig through thousands of comics to find that one comic the market is demanding and they charge what the market will bear.<br/>The alternative is that they sit in some collection and gather dust. Some of what you are paying for is the convenience of just having it available. Storage on comics can cost thousands of dollars a month. <br/><br/>If you have a collection of worthless comics, you are essentially paying to store it. It's costing you money every month. <br/><br/><br/>One thing I'm not going to do is see that a book is hot, dig it out of my collection, and then sell it for what I paid or less. <br/><br/>When a book gets hot, it has more value to me too. That's why the buyer has to pay what I think it's worth and no less. I take pride in what I own too.<br/><br/>What I think a book is worth outweighs what any guide or second opinion has to say. At no point is the valuation I give something less relevant than the valuation of the guy next to me. <br/><br/><br/>You can be frustrated that you wanted a comic after it got hot, but it got hot because other people want it too. Some of those people have deeper pockets than me and you and just want the comic. They aren't sweating over the price at all.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Defiant1</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote><b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>It's also funny that a series that is not worth anything doesn't show up and being for sale then when the series hits the roof then these books "Magically" appear.....<img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><br/><br/>Yea what are the odds that this is a coincidence...<img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><br/><br/><i>edited by Taskmaster on 12/19/2020</i></blockquote><br/><br/>That's pretty much true of anything. Once there's an opportunity to make a higher profit margin, sellers will capitalize on the opportunity. <br/><br/>I've got around 10,000 comics. I'm not going to waste time digging out a copy of something that only make me $2 profit. My time is worth more than that. If I can get $20 profit off of something, that's worth my time.</blockquote><br/><br/><br/>Right and that's my point there are books here that are WORTHLESS but once they go up to $5-10 then there is alot of listings for the same book...Or people listing it WAY over book because it's what "they" think is the price....Gotta love some people....<img src="images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0" alt="Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)" />]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Taskmaster</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>It's also funny that a series that is not worth anything doesn't show up and being for sale then when the series hits the roof then these books "Magically" appear.....<img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><br/><br/>Yea what are the odds that this is a coincidence...<img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><br/><br/><i>edited by Taskmaster on 12/19/2020</i></blockquote><br/><br/>That's pretty much true of anything. Once there's an opportunity to make a higher profit margin, sellers will capitalize on the opportunity. <br/><br/>I've got around 10,000 comics. I'm not going to waste time digging out a copy of something that only make me $2 profit. My time is worth more than that. If I can get $20 profit off of something, that's worth my time.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[It's also funny that a series that is not worth anything doesn't show up and being for sale then when the series hits the roof then these books "Magically" appear.....<img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><br/><br/>Yea what are the odds that this is a coincidence...<img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><br/><i>edited by Taskmaster on 12/19/2020</i>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>Defiant1</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>I like the "good ol' days" when collector's scorned a second printing like the plague. It was inferior. You missed the boat if you got a higher printing number. A publisher needed to make enough of the first printing to cover demand because the second printing would only sell to complete fools.</blockquote><br/><br/>Now, 2nd and 3rd printings are apparently pre-planned to boost sales without calling them variants. I wouldn't be surprised if they were all printed at the same time as the first printing.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Defiant1, I am still risk averse to purchasing second printings because of the old perception that they are inferior.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[I like the "good ol' days" when collector's scorned a second printing like the plague. It was inferior. You missed the boat if you got a higher printing number. A publisher needed to make enough of the first printing to cover demand because the second printing would only sell to complete fools.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<b>BasementComics</b> wrote:<br/><blockquote>Reminds me of Superman 75 - the Death of Superman.  A buddy of mine bought 2 that day at cover and upon leaving his store (they totally sold out), sold one copy for $75 right outside the store.  Insane.<br/><i>edited by BasementComics on 12/9/2020</i></blockquote><br/><br/><br/>Yes but at least we knew that was coming other books just are on printing 2 & 3 and most people never saw 1st printing (EX&gt; Daredevil #25 Elektra becomes Daredevil) it's NOT out yet but it's "Sold Out" going for almost $50 right...Ok that wasn't "planned" <img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><br/><i>edited by Taskmaster on 12/10/2020</i>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Reminds me of Superman 75 - the Death of Superman.  A buddy of mine bought 2 that day at cover and upon leaving his store (they totally sold out), sold one copy for $75 right outside the store.  Insane.<br/><i>edited by BasementComics on 12/9/2020</i>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[OK how is this done and or who finds out this info because certain books:<br/><br/>1.Never Heard of Them<br/>2.Not REAL credible information for the price increase<br/>3.Book that isn't even OUT yet is sold out and going  for Big $$$ WTF?<br/><br/>It's just funny it seems like you can't buy a NEW book at cover when it comes out anymore...<img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" /><br/><br/>Unreal....<img src="images/smilies/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="Whaaaaa?" />]]></description>
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