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stephanm Posts: 35
6/15/2020
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What are your favorite Marvel SA Covers?
I'm starting off with these three beauties (chosen for visual impact, not necessarily historical importance, although FF 49 is no slouch in that regard, either).
Next on my list would be Avengers 57 (Vision), but sadly I don't own that one...
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stephanm Posts: 35
6/15/2020
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PS ... on reflections, seems I really like giant super villain hands... ;-)
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fdaz89 Posts: 56
6/15/2020
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ASM #67 is a favorite of mine, too.
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Officialgeezer Posts: 39
6/15/2020
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ASM #28 always makes me sit up and take notice
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Defiant1 Posts: 720
6/29/2020
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I have always liked this one. Dew from plants is stopping a hero that can go supernova.
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rustyauger Posts: 159
6/29/2020
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This is my fav
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comfan Posts: 85
6/30/2020
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ASM 50 has to be one of mine.
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Defiant1 Posts: 720
6/30/2020
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I was going to post a pre-hero monster comic, but I consider it to be "pre-Silver".
I really like TTA #29.
Nothing against the iconic superhero covers, but they kinda bore me because I've been seeing the same covers spotlighted for 50 years on comic display and in magazine articles. I like stuff off the beaten path. Things that you see less often.
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rustyauger Posts: 159
6/30/2020
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Defiant1 wrote:
I was going to post a pre-hero monster comic, but I consider it to be "pre-Silver".
Showcase 4 is considered the first silver age comic and that is 1956. Tales of Suspense didn't even start until 1959 and TOS 8 is March 1960.
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Defiant1 Posts: 720
6/30/2020
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rustyauger wrote:
Defiant1 wrote:
I was going to post a pre-hero monster comic, but I consider it to be "pre-Silver".
Showcase 4 is considered the first silver age comic and that is 1956. Tales of Suspense didn't even start until 1959 and TOS 8 is March 1960.
I realize that, but I am a recovering Marvel Zombie. I still don't acknowledge DC comics as being relevant in that time period.
My gut feeling is that the real Silver age began with Strange Worlds #1 (December 1958). That was when Ditko & Kirby first both contributed to a new title.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Strange_Worlds_Vol_1_1
Showcase #4 was definitely a catalyst because it revived superheroes. Superheroes were instrumental in bringing comics back to life even though I feel Marvel's take on them deserves more credit.
What really bothers me is EC comics being called Golden Age simply because they were old, predated the Silver Age, and were good. The Golden age was over by the 50's.
I prefer the terms like "Post Golden Age" or "Pre Silver Age". I didn't coin those terms, but I think they are better for defining the market conditions and relevance to one another.
I think the modern era of comics should be named after clothes or fabric. We're in the Garb-age of comics now.
If not that, then the Indium Tin Oxide Age, because that is the compound that allows touch screens to work.
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rustyauger Posts: 159
6/30/2020
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As a big Batman collector there is definitely a period between the Golden Age and Silver Age. Usually it is called the Atom or Atomic Age. This would include the Kirby and Ditko monster issues and anything with a strong sci-fi basis. Silver Age is more defined by the rebirth of the superheroes however many of the prototypes of the superheroes can be found in these Atom Age monster comics. Some people argue that Detective Comics 225 (first Martian Manhunter) is the first Silver Age comic and it is from 1955. Batman 121 (first Mr. Freeze) is from 1959 and it is not listed by Overstreet as one of the top silver age comics even though its value would put it on the list.
I love Marvel but it really bugs me how slanted the industry is towards it.
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Defiant1 Posts: 720
6/30/2020
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rustyauger wrote:
As a big Batman collector there is definitely a period between the Golden Age and Silver Age. Usually it is called the Atom or Atomic Age. This would include the Kirby and Ditko monster issues and anything with a strong sci-fi basis. Silver Age is more defined by the rebirth of the superheroes however many of the prototypes of the superheroes can be found in these Atom Age monster comics. Some people argue that Detective Comics 225 (first Martian Manhunter) is the first Silver Age comic and it is from 1955. Batman 121 (first Mr. Freeze) is from 1959 and it is not listed by Overstreet as one of the top silver age comics even though its value would put it on the list.
I love Marvel but it really bugs me how slanted the industry is towards it.
Stan Lee reshaped how the stories were written. I used to buy Action Comics, The Flash, and some other scattered titles in the 70's when I first started collecting. Picking up a Hulk comic featuring the Rhino was a life changing event for me. Rhino was Spider-Man's villain. I knew that from the cartoon on TV. Heroes and villains crossed into other titles and it mattered. It changed things. Next months books were affected by what happened the month before. In most DC comics, the stories changed nothing. Next month everything rebooted back to where it was. They are okay fun for brief escapism, but it's not like immersing yourself in a world running parallel to our own.
To this day, I can't stand story arcs or character reboots. I want ongoing stories where things evolve and change in a logical manner.
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rustyauger Posts: 159
7/1/2020
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All good points. There is a reason why Marvel is so dominant. I grew up reading comics in the 90s and Batman got me hooked. Still love Batman over all other characters.
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Defiant1 Posts: 720
7/1/2020
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rustyauger wrote:
All good points. There is a reason why Marvel is so dominant. I grew up reading comics in the 90s and Batman got me hooked. Still love Batman over all other characters.
I contend that stand-alone stories, story arcs, and reboots are directly deteriorating the collector loyalty to the characters and unintentionally driving fans away from the hobby. Collecting is like a train ride. You hop on to take a journey. Every time that train stops (or a story arc ends) people jump on and people jump off. It's a lot harder to get people to jump on the train because they have no idea where it's going or if they'll enjoy the ride. If they are on the train and have any memorable moments along the way, they are more willing to stick it out and ride through the less exciting spots. Story arcs and stand-alone stories are like a city bus stopping every block. People will get off the train even if they are getting close to that spot they wanted to be emotionally. Marvel pulled in readers for the long haul. Of course there were some really good DC stories, but DC nurtured collectors with a short attention span. They nurtured collectors that weren't emotionally invested in the lives of the characters. Marvel outsold DC for many years because their approach to selling comics was so different.
I tend to prefer heroes with greater power than just a man in a suit. Batman doesn't appeal to me because all it would take is a well placed sniper and some good bait to get him where you want him. He'd be down with one bullet. I prefer characters like Hulk that used to fall from outer space and wake up in the crater he left. I also like Hulk because he was an introvert. He wanted to be left alone. He was quite capable of defending himself, but you'd get along with him much better if you just left him alone.
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stephanm Posts: 35
7/5/2020
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To bring this back on topic ;-) .... by Marvel SA Age covers I meant FF1 until the end of the 60s.
BUT, Rustyauger and Defiant, your monster TTA/TOS covers are awesome, I'll give you that.
And always interesting to see one of these "what is SA" (or GA? or BA?) discussions. Although ultimately that'll always be a matter of personal taste, because these "Ages" are fluent.
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