ComicsPriceGuide.com Forums - General Comic Discussion - What is Wolverine's first appearance? - Messages https://www.comicspriceguide.com/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=13908 ComicsPriceGuide.com Forums - General Comic Discussion - What is Wolverine's first appearance? - Messages en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Jitbit AspNetForum Sun, 09 Feb 2020 00:30:15 GMT Sun, 09 Feb 2020 00:30:15 GMT https://www.comicspriceguide.com/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=13908 Message from jimmytorres00 Sun, 09 Feb 2020 00:30:15 GMT https://www.comicspriceguide.com/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=13908 Message from jimmytorres00 Ronbatman wrote:
So I have to ask, do you own 180 and not 181?

The argument is interesting and obviously those two books have switched back and forth over the years. To me, either one is a great book to own. A cameo is a brief appearance that could be in shadows but it could be a single panel of Wolverine. By definition only, 180 is a cameo to me.


I own 180, 181 and 182 all cgc 8.0 even if I didn't own any of those books I would still consider 180 his first true appearance. I think people lean towards 181 only because of the iconic cover.]]> Wed, 29 Jan 2020 18:18:30 GMT https://www.comicspriceguide.com/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=13908 Message from Ronbatman
The argument is interesting and obviously those two books have switched back and forth over the years. To me, either one is a great book to own. A cameo is a brief appearance that could be in shadows but it could be a single panel of Wolverine. By definition only, 180 is a cameo to me.]]> Tue, 28 Jan 2020 15:25:53 GMT https://www.comicspriceguide.com/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=13908 Message from rixmaxx jimmytorres00 wrote:
I don't know why the industry and people in general don't recognize 180 as his first appearance. I mean he makes a full head to toe appearance and he even speaks. A cameo appearance would be him standing in the shadows. Or his fist busting through a wall or you may see a side profile of his mask in the dark. But he made a full appearance.
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#180 IS his "first" appearance but it is a "cameo" appearance, it is one panel and he is not SHOWN interacting with any other character. Even if this "panel" was considered his first appearance, #180 still wouldn't be "IT" This same panel was in many other comic books before this one (as ads) but they are not considered his first appearance neither. Gambit is in many panels in UXM Annual #14 but its still considered a cameo, he's not interacting with anybody. Same argument...… An actor in a movie can be in many different scenes but if he isn't interacting with the other characters, its still considered a "cameo" appearance. That won't change. So I think what's going on here is, most people have a problem with the definition of "cameo". Sometimes a characters first "cameo" appearance is worth more, sometimes its the first "full" appearance, so the value comes from which one is more desirable..……………. Time has shown collectors consider #181 over #180 as his "most wanted" appearance, that won't (and shouldn't) ever change. (even if I have 3 nice #180s and only one #181:sillysmile]]> Tue, 28 Jan 2020 15:20:03 GMT https://www.comicspriceguide.com/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=13908 Message from jimmytorres00 https://youtu.be/ii9UvyX4LBg check out this video about first appearances
edited by Jimmytorres00 on 1/28/2020]]> Tue, 28 Jan 2020 08:14:37 GMT https://www.comicspriceguide.com/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=13908 Message from aarondawe
As an aside, when I was younger, 180 was the more valuable book. My No. 11 Overstreet Price Guide has 180 at $12, and 181 and 182 at $5.75.

Aaron]]> Tue, 21 Jan 2020 19:54:00 GMT https://www.comicspriceguide.com/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=13908 Message from jimmytorres00 edited by jimmytorres00 on 1/21/2020]]> Tue, 21 Jan 2020 19:03:44 GMT https://www.comicspriceguide.com/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=13908 Message from rixmaxx (sorry it didn't have me signed in)
edited by rixmaxx on 1/19/2020]]> Sun, 19 Jan 2020 08:56:41 GMT https://www.comicspriceguide.com/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=13908 Message from Imcubillo Sat, 18 Jan 2020 19:54:46 GMT https://www.comicspriceguide.com/forum/messages.aspx?TopicID=13908 Message from jimmytorres00 Sat, 18 Jan 2020 18:07:58 GMT