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Ronbatman
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10/4/2019

Ronbatman
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When you're in the middle of organizing so many comics sometimes you add books to titles to eliminate the big backlog. Then you go back and think about it and realize that book should go someplace else. We've done exactly that with the Pence versions of several Marvel and DC books. We put the Pence versions in the US title when it should have its own title with a different country.

So we've begun the process of moving British or Pence books into their own titles.

Here is the US version of Dr. Strange (vol. 2)
https://comicspriceguide.com/titles/doctor-strange/slwq

Here is the British version of Dr. Strange (vol. 2)
https://comicspriceguide.com/titles/doctor-strange/pksuls

With both of those titles there is a link back to the other version to make it easier for navigation. In the main search bar there is an area for the country, use that if you're looking for Marvel UK or the Pence version of a regular Marvel or DC title.

Back to organizing...
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Defiant1
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10/6/2019

Defiant1
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This is a sticky situation. The pence versions of these were published in the US and shipped overseas.

The same is true for Canadian price variants on Charlton.

Most sites don't know they exist, but there are Canadian (75ยข) price variants published in the US by Charlton and sold in Canada.


Scary Tales #40 - #44 have such cover variants.



Research is still ongoing since the print runs are much smaller and scan of some issues have never surfaced online in the past 5 years.


The possible affected issues are as follows:
Attack (1971) 42, 43, 44, 45, 46
Battlefield Action (1957) 83, 84, 85, 86, 87
Beyond the Grave (1975) 11, 12, 13, 14, 15
Fightin' Army (1957) 166, 167, 168, 169, 170
Fightin' Marines (1955) 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175
Fightin' Navy (1956) 127, 128, 129, 130, 131
Ghost Manor (1971) 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75
Ghostly Tales (1966) 163, 164, 165, 166, 167
Gunfighters (1966) 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85
Haunted (1971) 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74
Scary Tales (1975) 40, 41, 42, 43, 44
War (1975) 41, 42, 43, 44, 45


I believe that on the titles with 6 issues listed, the early Sept. 1983 price variants may not exist. For example, I don't believe Gunfighters #80 really exists. All of the issue numbers listed in the first 4 titles have been confirmed.
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Ronbatman
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10/22/2019

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This change is going to take a long time to implement because it moves so many issues and requires research.

We are basing our data on where the book is sold. So if a book was printed in the US and shipped to the British market with Pence on the cover. It will be listed as a British book. The same applies to books printed in Canada but sold in the US. That would be a US book. Canadian price variants will now be listed under the Canadian title.
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solarno
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10/23/2019

solarno
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To help me understand using a modern book that I collect:
Robotech is currently published by Titan and listed as a UK book, but is printed here in the US with a US price. Will these book eventually be changed to being considered a US book?

Side question, possible related:
I noticed that recently the pricing shown on the main title page for Robotech and Robotech Remix from Titan changed to displaying in pounds, but when you select an individual issue it still displays in dollars. Is this change a coding artifact from wanting the country to reflect where it's actually sold versus where it was printed or where the publisher is HQ'd?

Cheers!
Jim
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Ronbatman
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10/23/2019

Ronbatman
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Excellent questions

So your first question is related to the publisher being British but making books for the American market. We need to discuss this but my immediate response would be "yes" since it follows our guidelines.

We are in the process of adding pounds and other units of measure to the site based on the country. You are seeing the first stages of that change.
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stephanm
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12/2/2019

stephanm
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Ronbatman wrote:
This change is going to take a long time to implement because it moves so many issues and requires research.

We are basing our data on where the book is sold. So if a book was printed in the US and shipped to the British market with Pence on the cover. It will be listed as a British book. The same applies to books printed in Canada but sold in the US. That would be a US book. Canadian price variants will now be listed under the Canadian title.




Ron, are you sure treating the Pence issues (and the Candian price variants) in the way you describe is really

(a) the correct way to do it?

(b) and a good use of your team's time (given that you state it's a mountain of work)?

After all, the Pence variants (and the Canadian variants) are totally identical, printed off the same printing presses. The interior pages are 100% identical, with the same American adds etc. -- you could not tell coverless books apart. And the covers only differ in the price (and sometimes other minor text alterations). The publisher was Marvel US (it would have gone through a local agent for shipping etc., but that's not the same as having a UK publisher).

In fact, at the same time the Pence variants of the original books were sold in the UK, "real" UK versions were being sold in the UK in parallel -- these were specifically made for the Bristish market, usually reprinting US book a in a completely different way, usually combining different heroes, different paper, different adds, sometimes in b&w (and later even having their own original stories, like the first Captain Britain comics, before he made it to the US in Marvel Team Up 65).
The latter book are of course British books.

The price variants, by contrast, are, to my mind, just that - price variants.
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