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Chuckpguarantee Posts: 2
7/28/2019
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What does it mean when Marvel would put a diamond shape around the price and issue rather than a square, in the upper left hand of the cover.
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kds_comics Posts: 686
7/28/2019
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The diamond box about the price signified that the comics was sold to a wholesaler to be redistributed to a retailer. (Non-newstand retailers).Often by Western Publishing and with the Whitman imprint. Examples of non-newsstand retailers were Woolworth, McCrory, and other five and dime stores in the 1970's. (What today would be Dollar General or similar).
More than you every want to know is online here http://www.bipcomics.com/showcase/Direct/index.php
In general - there is no value difference for diamond issue. The Whitman imprint is almost always with less than the original - similar to a second print. .
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Defiant1 Posts: 720
7/28/2019
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kds_comics wrote:
The diamond box about the price signified that the comics was sold to a wholesaler to be redistributed to a retailer. (Non-newstand retailers).Often by Western Publishing and with the Whitman imprint. Examples of non-newsstand retailers were Woolworth, McCrory, and other five and dime stores in the 1970's. (What today would be Dollar General or similar).
More than you every want to know is online here http://www.bipcomics.com/showcase/Direct/index.php
In general - there is no value difference for diamond issue. The Whitman imprint is almost always with less than the original - similar to a second print. .
You are living in the past.
Newsstand & Whitman variant are seeing a huge increase in demand and quite often they sell for more than the Direct Market (or Diamond) versions.
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7/28/2019
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I disagree that they sell quite often more than direct. Most collectors just want the book, be it direct or newsstand. I will say there are more wanting to collect newsstand than before but not a huge amount care if it’s direct or newsstand.
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Defiant1 Posts: 720
7/28/2019
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I disagree that they sell quite often more than direct. Most collectors just want the book, be it direct or newsstand. I will say there are more wanting to collect newsstand than before but not a huge amount care if it’s direct or newsstand.
Newsstand & Whitman are more difficult to find in nice shape, so there doesn't have to be a huge amount of people who care.
This myth that collectors don't care was started by Overstreet so they wouldn't have to double their number of listings in their price guide.
It's perpetuated by lazy price guide admins so they don't have to increase their workload to track it.
The lack of effort to track the price differences ultimately results in the suppression of those price differences.
Collectors do care.
Mile High Comics saw the opportunity to cater to the public demand for Newsstand versions. They price Newsstand versions more accordingly.
I strongly disagree with your assertion, so we are in full agreement to disagree.
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quinnspuddinjoker Posts: 673
7/28/2019
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I stopped dealing with mile high seeing the grades are way off. Like 7 out of 10 books buy are over graded. Their computer system is a cheap owner not ever making changes in the system, a system that is decades behind.
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aarondawe Posts: 162
7/29/2019
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Defiant1 wrote:
I disagree that they sell quite often more than direct. Most collectors just want the book, be it direct or newsstand. I will say there are more wanting to collect newsstand than before but not a huge amount care if it’s direct or newsstand.
Newsstand & Whitman are more difficult to find in nice shape, so there doesn't have to be a huge amount of people who care.
This myth that collectors don't care was started by Overstreet so they wouldn't have to double their number of listings in their price guide.
It's perpetuated by lazy price guide admins so they don't have to increase their workload to track it.
The lack of effort to track the price differences ultimately results in the suppression of those price differences.
Collectors do care.
Mile High Comics saw the opportunity to cater to the public demand for Newsstand versions. They price Newsstand versions more accordingly.
I strongly disagree with your assertion, so we are in full agreement to disagree.
Sales on Ebay also show that some newsstand versions sell for more than their direct market counterparts. I think the only time there isn't much difference between the two is for more common issues that generally aren't worth much to begin with.
That linked Overstreet article is from the tenth price guide -- almost 40 years old. I don't think it's relevant anymore at this point (not directed at Defiant1). Things change and the market dictates these changes, not what people necessarily want to believe.
Aaron
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solarno Posts: 166
7/29/2019
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I've also observed a slight uptick in the number of customers asking specifically for direct or newsstand editions of books over the past few months at the LCS I work at. There's definitely an interest out there, but it's hard to tell if those customers are searching for perceived value or just general interest. We're not pricing issues differently at this point, but I wouldn't be surprised if the owner did eventually, at least for key books. The challenge though comes with knowing which version of a specific issue is actually more valuable.
Based on that, other than comparing condition it would be difficult to value newstand editions higher than direct just due to the quantity out in the wild. By the mid-80's though is where I can see a logical argument for newsstand editions being considered more valuable for an equivalent condition book.
Cheers!
Jim
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