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spidercents
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 Posted - 04/11/2007 : 10:40:51 AM
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Im trying to educate myself on key SA issues however I was wondering about the list below...are there comics missing from the list that should be there and are there any on the list that shouldnt be there...I think a couple on the list may be bronze age...not sure
I was wondering about Doom Patrol # 121...I guess its a key however is this book worth picking up or does anyone even care about it...just wanted to know because i was thinking of maybe picking one up however not sure.
I got this list off a website on the net and want to know how accurate it is...thanks for the help.
Key Issues of the Silver Age
DC Comics
Adventure Comics 247 DC Comics Superboy meets the Legion of Super-Heroes
Brave and the Bold 28 DC Comics 1st Appearance of the Justice League of America
Detective Comics 225 DC Comics 1st Appearance of Martian Manhunter
Detective Comics 327 DC Comics New Direction for Batman
Detective Comics 359 DC Comics The New Batgirl
Doom Patrol 121 DC Comics Entire team dies, a first in comics history
Flash 123 DC Comics Barry Allen meets Golden Age Flash
House of Secrets 92 DC Comics 1st Appearance of the Swamp Thing
Justice League of America 1 DC Comics First Issue
Our Army at War 81 DC Comics 1st Appearance of Sgt. Rock
Showcase 4 DC Comics 1st Appearance of Barry Allen as the Flash
Showcase 9 DC Comics Lois Lane stars in her own adventure
Showcase 22 DC Comics 1st Appearance of Silver Age Green Lantern
Showcase 34 DC Comics 1st Appearance of Ray Palmer as the Atom
Superman 233 DC Comics Clark Kent becomes a television reporter
Superman’s Pal Jimmy Olsen 1 DC Comics Jimmy Olsen gets his own series
World’s Finest Comics 71 DC Comics Batman and Superman learn each other’s secret identities
Marvel Comics
Amazing Fantasy 15 Marvel 1st Appearance of Spider-Man
Amazing Spider-Man 1 Marvel Spider-Man goes solo
Amazing Spider-Man 3 Marvel 1st Appearance of Dr. Octopus
Amazing Spider-Man 14 Marvel 1st Appearance of Green Goblin
Amazing Spider-Man 39 Marvel Unmasked by the Green Goblin
Amazing Spider-Man 50 Marvel 1st Appearance of Kingpin
Avengers 4 Marvel 1st Silver Age Appearance of Captain America
Daredevil 1 Marvel 1st Appearance of Daredevil
Fantastic Four 1 Marvel 1st Appearance of FF
Fantastic Four 4 Marvel 1st Silver Age Appearance of Sub-Mariner
Fantastic Four 5 Marvel 1st Appearance of Dr. Doom
Fantastic Four 48 Marvel 1st Appearance of Silver Surfer
Fantastic Four 52 Marvel 1st Appearance of Black Panther
Hulk 1 Marvel 1st Appearance of Hulk
Journey Into Mystery 83 Marvel 1st Appearance of Thor
Marvel Super-Heroes 12 Marvel 1st Appearance of Captain Marvel
Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. 1 Marvel Jim Steranko artwork
Strange Tales 110 Marvel 1st Appearance of Dr. Strange
Strange Tales 135 Marvel Nick Fury as lead character
Tales of Suspense 39 Marvel 1st Apppearance of Iron Man
Tales of Suspense 59 Marvel Captain America and Iron Man have their own series
Tales to Astonish 27 Marvel 1st Appearance of Hank Pym
X-Men 1 Marvel 1st Appearance of X-Men
MORE ISSUES ADDED TO LIST
Up for consideration to be on the list...need more opinions to see if they should be on list or not.
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Amazing Spider-man #25 first appearance of Mary Jane (added to list by banebdjetet)
Uncanny X-men #14 first appearance of Sentinels (added to list by banebdjetet)
Action Comics #241 is the first appearance of the Fortress of Solitude.(Added to list by auburntiger)
FF 46 1st Black Bolt (Added to list by marcus2217b)
Uncanny X-men #12 is the 1st Juggs (Added to list by marcus2217b)
Sgt Fury and the Howling Commando #1 the 1st nick fury app (Added to list by marcus2217b)
Tales Of Suspense #57 is 1ST APP. & Origin of Hawkeye (Added to list by marcus2217b)...not officially added but considered.
Amazing spider-man 31 1st app of Gwyen Stacey and Harry Osbourn(Added to list by marcus2217b)
Superman 199 first Superman/Flash race (Added to list by marmat)
Lois Lane 70 first SA Catwoman (Added to list by marmat)
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KEY BRONZE AGE
Batman 232 1st Ras Agul (Added to list by marcus2217b)
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KEY GOLDEN AGE
ACTION COMICS #252 1st super girl that (Added to list by marcus2217b)
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Edited by - spidercents on 04/11/2007 3:32:31 PM
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banebdjetet
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290 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 12:20:41 PM
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I would add Amazing Spider-man #25 (first appearance of Mary Jane)
and Uncanny X-men #14 (first appearance of Sentinels) |
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AuburnTiger
A True Collector
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 12:22:42 PM
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I think Action Comics #241 is the first appearance of the Fortress of Solitude.
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marcus2217b
A True Collector
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2656 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 12:39:11 PM
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Yeah i think FF 46 is the 1st Black Bolt i would ad that. I bet he will get hot with world war hulk coming i think he plays a big part in it
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marcus2217b
A True Collector
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2656 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 12:39:47 PM
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Whats is Hawkeys 1st appp
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spidercents
A True Collector
Canada
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marcus2217b
A True Collector
USA
2656 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 1:49:30 PM
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Uncanny X-men #12 is the 1st Juggs you may want to consider this also.
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marcus2217b
A True Collector
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2656 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 1:50:43 PM
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Is Sgt Fury and the Howling Commando #1 the 1st nick fury app? If so I would def. add that
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spidercents
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marcus2217b
A True Collector
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2656 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 2:09:02 PM
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Amazing spider-man 31 1st app of Gwyen Stacey and Harry Osbourne
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marcus2217b
A True Collector
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2656 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 2:10:46 PM
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what was kingpin 1st app spidey 51 maybe cant remember
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marcus2217b
A True Collector
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2656 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 2:12:03 PM
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ACTION COMICS #252 1st super girl that maybe golden age though cant remember
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eriqui
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marcus2217b
A True Collector
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2656 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 2:14:12 PM
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Batman 232 1st Ras Agul is that silver or bronze
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spidercents
A True Collector
Canada
762 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 2:20:07 PM
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Originally posted by marcus2217b
what was kingpin 1st app spidey 51 maybe cant remember
I don't measure my manhood on a number, unless that number involves current salary, sexual conquests or inches...I am not concerned with my grammar on a message board. I will save my writing skills for something that is important enough to warrant them
I think 51 is the 1st. App. and origin of Electro...not sure though
EDITED...I have no idea if this is right or not...info was off the net.
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Edited by - spidercents on 04/11/2007 2:36:09 PM |
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spidercents
A True Collector
Canada
762 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 2:23:11 PM
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Originally posted by marcus2217b
Batman 232 1st Ras Agul is that silver or bronze
I don't measure my manhood on a number, unless that number involves current salary, sexual conquests or inches...I am not concerned with my grammar on a message board. I will save my writing skills for something that is important enough to warrant them
Its bronze however so is superman # 233 I think and it was on the list so maybe i will add it or just start a list for bronze and golden age as well.
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mark
A True Collector
USA
2714 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 2:40:07 PM
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Moved to Bronze Age thread!
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spidercents
A True Collector
Canada
762 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 2:47:59 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by mark
A bit beyond silver but definite mentions:
Just edit your post mark and remove those issues and go to Bronze age thread...I also may start a modern age thread as well...thanks
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marmat
A True Collector
Italy
2894 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 3:00:00 PM
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Superman 199 first Superman/Flash race
Lois Lane 70 first SA Catwoman |
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marmat
A True Collector
Italy
2894 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 3:01:14 PM
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How can I forget this:
Four Color 386, first Uncle Scrooge cover.
His first appereance is in FC 178, but I belive it's GA book |
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The Fuj
A True Collector
USA
3015 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 3:44:14 PM
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Avengers #16- 1st Cap's quirky quartet.
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Elijya
A True Collector
USA
2987 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 3:53:06 PM
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Blue Beetle #1 (1967) - First Question
80 Page Giant #1
80 Page Giant #8
Aquamn #1 (1962)
Avengers #1
Avengers #16 - first Roster change
X-Men #4 - First Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch
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spidercents
A True Collector
Canada
762 Posts |
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silverage12¢
A True Collector
USA
1730 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 6:19:43 PM
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Avengers #57 - 1st Vision
Captain America #117 - 1st Falcon
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Basquiat
A True Collector
USA
3761 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 6:23:38 PM
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I didn't read through all of these posts but some glaring omissions are:
Avengers #1, #48, #57
FF # 12,
JIM # 112
ASM #28, #40 (GG IR)
Flash #105
Wonder Woman #159
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szelim
A True Collector
915 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 7:46:33 PM
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Flash 137 - 1st SA appearance of JSA
FF 66 - Intro of Him (Warlock)
Brave and the Bold 54 - 1st app. of Teen Titans
Showcase 37 - 1st app. of the Metal Men
Re: Doom Patrol 121, it's an underrated book which many have forgotten, but I think it's worth acquiring. You should be able to find a copy well under guide. Pick up Showcase 94 as well, which introduces the New Doom Patrol but more importantly reveals what transpired after Doom Patrol 121. |
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firebirdta
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USA
269 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 10:08:37 PM
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What about...
STRANGE TALES #114 (The 1st appearance of CAPTAIN AMERICA since the GOLDEN AGE... even if it was an imposter! AKA;ACROBAT)
You can't leave that GREAT comic off the KEY list!
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BMXman
A True Collector
Canada
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Universal Soldiers
A True Collector
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 10:49:22 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by spidercents
quote:
Originally posted by marcus2217b
what was kingpin 1st app spidey 51 maybe cant remember
I don't measure my manhood on a number, unless that number involves current salary, sexual conquests or inches...I am not concerned with my grammar on a message board. I will save my writing skills for something that is important enough to warrant them
I think 51 is the 1st. App. and origin of Electro...not sure though
EDITED...I have no idea if this is right or not...info was off the net.
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#50 was the first Kingpin, the first app. and origin of Electro was ASM #9
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spidercents
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marmat
A True Collector
Italy
2894 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 09:20:43 AM
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Batman 171 first SA Riddler.
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Basquiat
A True Collector
USA
3761 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 09:42:05 AM
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So far so good, but I think it would be better if you could group the issues from the same title together.
Too many humans in the rat race and too many rats in the human race.
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Raffle
A True Collector
USA
652 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 12:26:24 PM
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nice job on the listing
i think you sould add
ASM #25 first MJ unless you want to get the first time they showed her face ASM #42
ASM #31 first gwen and harry |
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spidercents
A True Collector
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spidercents
A True Collector
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762 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 1:20:42 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Basquiat
So far so good, but I think it would be better if you could group the issues from the same title together.
Too many humans in the rat race and too many rats in the human race.
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I agree...they are in alphabetical order now and seperated by tier however I think I need to have a master list so all 1st and 2nd tier keys are as one and in order so titles are together...have to work on that.
Key Issues of the Silver Age
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RobioAXP
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USA
254 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 2:54:17 PM
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Your list includes "Our Army at War 81 DC Comics 1st Appearance of Sgt. Rock" which is a definite, but I also believe you'd want to include Our Army at War 83 which is the first Joe Kubert Sgt. Rock
Joe Kubert was involved with Sgt Rock for over 30 years as writer, illustrator, and editor. He really IS the reason for Sgt Rock's popularity. |
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marmat
A True Collector
Italy
2894 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 3:22:05 PM
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BAtman 181 first Poison Ivy
BAtman 100 and Superman 100 anniversary issues and origins retold
BAtman 150 first SA Penguin
Action Comics 242 first Brainiac
Adventures Comics 210 first Krypto
Detective 233 first Batwoman
Mystery in Space 53 Adam Strange begins
Tales to Astonish 27 first Ant Man
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BMXman
A True Collector
Canada
2167 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 4:29:24 PM
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wow...it's amazing too see what some folks consider "key" issues....D
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Tomb of Dracula #10
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The Fuj
A True Collector
USA
3015 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 11:53:45 PM
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I was thinking the same thing.
I'm no big DC buff, but I know the first Posion Ivy shouldn't be considered a key book. I wouldnt even consider first Penguin due to him being a B list villain. but whut the hey. I just read the books right?
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marcus2217b
A True Collector
USA
2656 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2007 : 12:13:25 AM
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See I think Penguins 1st app is a key, just not his 1st Silver age app. What is the definition of a key issue? I have no idea. To me it is limited to 1st appearances semi to important characters.
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worldeater
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Posted - 04/16/2007 : 2:30:17 PM
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I would add showcase 60 1st silver age app of the spectre.
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Earl
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Posted - 04/16/2007 : 2:56:23 PM
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This is the whole problem with key's. With some obvious exceptions, one man's key is another man's crap. One years flavour of the month is next years also ran.
Magnus Robot Fighter anyone? In 1993 that would have been on most people lists as a key character. Now, not so much.
And take a series like Showcase, almost every issue is a 'first' for some character.
And no one has listed publisher firsts yet. 1st Tower comic, first Warren comic magazine, etc etc.
Then you have all the artist and writer firsts.
That's why I like full runs. Almost every issue has something special that you can 'note' about it. Especially in the Silver Age.
And where is the 1st Zap etc? - It's all a matter of perspective. What's important to some people is of little interest to others.
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kingofrulers
A True Collector
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Posted - 04/16/2007 : 3:11:54 PM
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I'll add a couple:
ASM #96; the first Marvel Comic not be given the Comic Code's stamp since its inception about 15 years earlier. It is technically in the Bronze Age as it came out in 1970 I believe, but it was close.
Journey Into Mystery #85; 1st Loki
Journey Into Mystery #86; 1st Odin
X-men #14; 1st Sentinels
Tales of Suspense #52; 1st Black Widow
Tales to Astonish #35; 1st costumed Antman
Fantastic Four #4; 1st Siver Age Submariner appearance
Fantastic Four #12; 1st Marvel crossover/tie-in
X-men #4; 1st Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch
Strange Tales #97; 1st Aunt May and Uncle Ben
Strange Tales #135; 1st Nick Fury as Agent of SHIELD
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Defiant1
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USA
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Posted - 04/16/2007 : 6:34:33 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Earl
This is the whole problem with key's. With some obvious exceptions, one man's key is another man's crap. One years flavour of the month is next years also ran.
Magnus Robot Fighter anyone? In 1993 that would have been on most people lists as a key character. Now, not so much.
And take a series like Showcase, almost every issue is a 'first' for some character.
And no one has listed publisher firsts yet. 1st Tower comic, first Warren comic magazine, etc etc.
Then you have all the artist and writer firsts.
That's why I like full runs. Almost every issue has something special that you can 'note' about it. Especially in the Silver Age.
And where is the 1st Zap etc? - It's all a matter of perspective. What's important to some people is of little interest to others.
Earl.
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You are very correct. I see Thor #225 as a significant key. 1st Firelord. Others couldn't care less. X-Men #11 is the first Stranger. Nobody cares. Tales to Astonish #62 (cameo) and #63... 1st Leader. Am I the only one who thinks that is cool as owl ____? Evidently.
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BMXman
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Posted - 04/17/2007 : 12:20:59 AM
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hm.....well I see keys as issues that have carried their weight throught out the course of time. Especially concernig the Silver age...all you have to ask yourself is if the character dies tomorrow would it really affect the book? In terms of events...if the event never happened would it have made a difference?
What makes a book a key:
1. 1st appearance of a manistay character
2. Huge event that changes a character significantly
3. 1st artist, writer, etc...that have a huge following.
Anyway that's just my opinion but I can really only speak for Marvel books. The first list looks pretty solid except 2 or 3 issues...but I don't think 6 of the 8 books "being considered" as keys...D
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