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Elijya
A True Collector
USA
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 Posted - 03/14/2006 : 2:11:48 PM
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I've only just realized this forum doesn't have polls....
anyway, what're your feelings on this format?
1. I almost exclusively buy trades (though maybe a single issue here and there)
2.I buy both trades and monthly comics regularly
3.Trades are evil! single issues only for me
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mranderson
Journeyman
Canada
100 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 2:20:35 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Elijya
I've only just realized this forum doesn't have polls....
anyway, what're your feelings on this format?
1. I almost exclusively buy trades (though maybe a single issue here and there)
2.I buy both trades and monthly comics regularly
3.Trades are evil! single issues only for me
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3. I can't by trades .... it seems ... wrong somehow?
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kingofrulers
A True Collector
USA
6985 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 2:23:44 PM
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3. I don't think they are evil, but I buy single issues nonethless. Seems like TPBs will only hurt collectors and dealers of GA, SA and BA books as well.
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aarondawe
A True Collector
Canada
4192 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 2:26:11 PM
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No longer buy 'single new' and trades seem an easier way to read my old books, since my boxes are wedged into closets and what have you.
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Ringfinger
A True Collector
USA
3096 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 2:26:36 PM
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Rocket2600
Administrator
USA
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AuburnTiger
A True Collector
USA
1678 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 3:05:48 PM
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| I buy both regularly. I prefer trades for all comics except DC Superhero comics. I would not be opposed to monthlies moving to exclusive trade paperback formats, but I'd like it to be a complete shift. All or nothing. |
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Mravalanche
A True Collector
USA
1461 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 3:22:45 PM
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3.Trades are evil! single issues only for me
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jerrytel
A True Collector
USA
1719 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 3:38:14 PM
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3.Trades are evil! single issues only for me
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oxbladder
A True Collector
Canada
3302 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 3:39:00 PM
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I wouldn't say I buy them regularily but I do buy TPBs and I buy them more nowadays than any time in the past. It is a matter of finances. There are many titles that I may catch on to late or series that I miss that I have neither the time nor finances to track down so I buy the TPB. IT is almost to the point now where I am considering only getting TPBs for much of the newer stuff since there is alot of old SA GA books I would like to buy and spending a minimum of $3.50 per book cuts drastically into that.
If you want to know what killed back issues and the number of collectors one just needs to look at cover prices. Lots of people I know stopped collecting both new and back issue books since the current market does not promote it. It has become either one or the other. TPBs at least offer those who collect both old and new a chance to save on the new books.
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AuburnTiger
A True Collector
USA
1678 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 3:42:28 PM
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Originally posted by oxbladder
I wouldn't say I buy them regularily but I do buy TPBs and I buy them more nowadays than any time in the past. It is a matter of finances. There are many titles that I may catch on to late or series that I miss that I have neither the time nor finances to track down so I buy the TPB. IT is almost to the point now where I am considering only getting TPBs for much of the newer stuff since there is alot of old SA GA books I would like to buy and spending a minimum of $3.50 per book cuts drastically into that.
If you want to know what killed back issues and the number of collectors one just needs to look at cover prices. Lots of people I know stopped collecting both new and back issue books since the current market does not promote it. It has become either one or the other. TPBs at least offer those who collect both old and new a chance to save on the new books.
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julian kennedy
A True Collector
USA
2201 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 3:57:59 PM
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3.Trades are evil! single issues only for me
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Earl
Administrator
United Kingdom
18746 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 3:59:01 PM
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A Comics Story is a comics story, the format it comes in has no relevance for me.
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klb9037
A True Collector
USA
660 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 4:01:40 PM
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I buy both regularly. I mentioned in another post that lately I have started to by Limited Edition hardback trades, Like Marvel Masterworks. I'm baffled by the low print runs they have and wonder how they can be a money maker, (even though they are expensive with a capitol E) I also bought like the 4 volume hardback of Frank Miller's Sin City, which looks just dandy on the book shelf. That's another reason, you can put them on a book shelf, for others to check out, whereas the rest of my stuff is squirreled away in my comic room with a few framed and the rest in long boxes and cabinets. Pretty much if I like a writer, artist, or a particular run or series, I'll get the trade. It's easier to dig out for a quick look and meanwhile my single issues don't get handled. Lately, I've found on two occasions that the writers or artists will leave a little bonus inside their hardcover offerings that are wrapped in plastic for shipping and retail. Makes it all the more fun...
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shavagonew
A True Collector
USA
1062 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 4:07:34 PM
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mishkali
Forum Apprentice
USA
99 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 4:11:49 PM
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I like to buy trades so I can re-read some of my favorites without having to lug a billion comics to work with me. Also makes sharing with others a bit easier. I'd rather someone borrow a trade than a bunch of my single issues.
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azhag2
A True Collector
USA
740 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 4:22:41 PM
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GL-IronMan2534
A True Collector
USA
1868 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 5:25:23 PM
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2.I buy both trades and monthly comics regularly.
"Revenge is a dish best served cold"- Old Klingon proverb. |
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jshedosky
A True Collector
USA
654 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 5:38:35 PM
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I never buy trades but I'm starting to reconsider it. I've pretty much given up on brand new comics. I would rather put my money toward some vintage stuff from the silver age.
I may continue to pick up DMZ, Ex Machina, and Punisher on the side, but that's it and I'll probably pick those up on the backissue market rather than buy them new. |
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Rustblackend
Journeyman
USA
117 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 6:29:48 PM
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2.I buy both trades and monthly comics regularly.
I mainly buy trades to catch up on series that I missed or have trouble finding the single issues for good prices. |
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Shadow
Senior Administrator
USA
10962 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 6:30:24 PM
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Interesting note:
At the Portland, OR Comic Con...a couple of weekends ago...there were tables and tables of Marvel, DC, and whatnot trades for 1/2 off...
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klb9037
A True Collector
USA
660 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 6:57:26 PM
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That's interesting Shadow. I get a 10% discount on them from my sub-service, but that's it. I can look at my LCS and see the same titles on the circular displays, month after month. New titles are intermingled with the monthlies, but there's little movement. I just can't figure out why they continue to fill up space with them, nor can I not understand why they don't ever stick them on sale. Hmm....
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weapon-x
A True Collector
USA
804 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 7:29:16 PM
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3.Trades are evil! single issues only for me
Closest of 3 choices. Actually, I'll buy them for series that I just want to read since the a number of the single issues I have for it are slabbed, i.e. Crisis on Infinite Earth. I've also had seller's through in TPBs with auctions I've won. Got my Watchmen TBD that way. |
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Sherlock_Holmes206
A True Collector
USA
6412 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 7:42:31 PM
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3.Trades are evil! single issues only for me
I do like the hardcover Marvel Masterworks though.
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Ringfinger
A True Collector
USA
3096 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 7:52:17 PM
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Rustblackend
Journeyman
USA
117 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 8:21:53 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Shadow
Interesting note:
At the Portland, OR Comic Con...a couple of weekends ago...there were tables and tables of Marvel, DC, and whatnot trades for 1/2 off...
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This past Saturday my LCS has older TPBs for 65%-75% off, and newer TPBs 25% off. I took advantage and got 5 Hellblazer trades for under 30 bucks that normally would have cost over 80 bucks. |
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Elijya
A True Collector
USA
2987 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 8:30:37 PM
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that's an incredible bargain. I woulda gotten more than that
what was their cutoff for a trade being newer or older?
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Rustblackend
Journeyman
USA
117 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 8:40:51 PM
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| The cut off was based on where they kept them lol the ones kept in the basement were the 65%-75% off, and the ones in the main store were 25% off. I did pick up 4 Sin City TPBs for 25% off as well. I would have picked up more trades but didn't really see anything I was interested in, and they are having a summer sale in a few months and the basement stuff doesn't really move so everything I saw will more than likely still be there for the next sale which will pretty well be the same deals. |
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ben
Enthusiast
USA
243 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 8:48:36 PM
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discordian
Master Collector
USA
425 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 8:53:51 PM
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I'm a #2.
I think TPBs are a wonderful thing for getting stories you missed after 10 years away from the hobby. Or getting stories you may not have been into back when you were full blast into the scene. Or for the purpose that Ringfinger stated.
HOWEVER - I'm undecided on the current trend to crank out story arcs with the purpose of making a TPB.
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Elijya
A True Collector
USA
2987 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 9:48:53 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by ben
I found a copy of Miracleman;The Golden age in a box of comics this past Saturday. Price paid for book $1.00. I thought it was a good deal.
you lucky bastard....
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dumdum
A True Collector
USA
1432 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 9:53:21 PM
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Originally posted by shavagonew
I usually only buy trades for titles I never picked up like Y the Last Man. But I catch up to where the series is and then start buying the single issues. Plus, if I want to read an older series, like Sandman, I have the trades to read instead of digging out 76 issues.
Same exact sentiment for me. |
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rwhite0604
Journeyman
USA
153 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 10:17:19 PM
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2 - I buy both. I am reluctant to buy a trade that I already have single issues of, but if it is favorite of mine, then I'll buy both, like Ultimate Spider-man. I buy trades of work that I found out about after the fact - such as Girls by the Luna Brothers. i didn't think that that series warranted buying separate issues, so I will just buy trades of that. I do prefer issues better, but trades are mmuch more readable!
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JJDe86
Journeyman
USA
171 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 10:50:04 PM
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Oddly enough, I just wrote an article on my site about Trades. It seems pretty on-topic, so hopefully I'm not breaking any rules by posting this, but here is the link to the article...
http://www.psychonoble.com/archives/articles/75.html
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AbbazabbA
A True Collector
USA
609 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 11:01:39 PM
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3. Trades are evil
I dunno... For me they serve no purpose whatsoever. I am a collector of comics. If I like a title, there's no reason that I would not want to have the individual issues... no matter what they cost. That's half (or more than half!) of the fun -- collecting! Conversely, if I don't like a title, I'm not going to buy it at all. In either case, there's no need for a trade paperback.
I've been in the LCS so many times... and it goes like this:
Customer: "Would you recommend Walking Dead (or any other title for that matter) as a good read?"
Clerk: "Yeah, it's great! But don't bother trying to get the individual issues. Theyre so hard to find. Just pick up the TPB."
I've been told this about Walking Dead, Preacher, Transmetropolitan, Black Hole and Fables (and more), yet I've managed to complete runs of all of those titles without any real hassle in finding issues.
My wife has brought up two good points, though. One, if you would like a friend to read a series you think is good, you'd can easily loan them the TPB whereas you'd never loan out the issues. At least, I'd never loan my issues to anyone -- I just can't trust that they will handle them the same as me. Anyway -- two, if you want to re-read a series sometime in the future, it is a lot easier to get out the TPB to read than it is to get each issue out of storage, remove from bag and board, handle carefully, re-bag/board, etc.
So, uhm... I guess I've actually created my own feeling on the format, somewhere between 2 and 3:
2.5 - I will always buy individual issues before I buy a TPB, but owning the TPB does have its merits.
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Fate
Collector
USA
319 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 11:26:12 PM
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| I buy single issues because im a collector. But If i do buy a trade its probably because i missed picking up the single issues and i want to read the story line. But 98% if i do get a trade i just go to library and pick it up instead of buying |
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Havok
A True Collector
USA
1028 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2006 : 11:34:23 PM
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Originally posted by AbbazabbA
3. Trades are evil
I dunno... For me they serve no purpose whatsoever. I am a collector of comics. If I like a title, there's no reason that I would not want to have the individual issues... no matter what they cost. That's half (or more than half!) of the fun -- collecting! Conversely, if I don't like a title, I'm not going to buy it at all. In either case, there's no need for a trade paperback.
I've been in the LCS so many times... and it goes like this:
Customer: "Would you recommend Walking Dead (or any other title for that matter) as a good read?"
Clerk: "Yeah, it's great! But don't bother trying to get the individual issues. Theyre so hard to find. Just pick up the TPB."
I've been told this about Walking Dead, Preacher, Transmetropolitan, Black Hole and Fables (and more), yet I've managed to complete runs of all of those titles without any real hassle in finding issues.
My wife has brought up two good points, though. One, if you would like a friend to read a series you think is good, you'd can easily loan them the TPB whereas you'd never loan out the issues. At least, I'd never loan my issues to anyone -- I just can't trust that they will handle them the same as me. Anyway -- two, if you want to re-read a series sometime in the future, it is a lot easier to get out the TPB to read than it is to get each issue out of storage, remove from bag and board, handle carefully, re-bag/board, etc.
So, uhm... I guess I've actually created my own feeling on the format, somewhere between 2 and 3:
2.5 - I will always buy individual issues before I buy a TPB, but owning the TPB does have its merits.
That about sums things up for me.
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slughead
Journeyman
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Posted - 03/15/2006 : 12:00:33 AM
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I but trades for Christmas gifts for friends and family each year. None of them read comics anymore, but they I can usually pick one that they'll be interested in. Earth X, the initial Jones Hulk arc, and Origin are examples of stories that non-comics folks really loved.
Personally, I've been a bit of a completist with single issues, but now I think I'm going to switch to trades. After reading the TPB of Astonishing X-Men I bought my brother this year, I realized that I would rather read a whole arc all at once. Kind of like watching Babylon 5 on Netflix. You can sit there for nine hours and get totally engrossed.
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bobafettesb
A True Collector
USA
1176 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2006 : 10:30:08 AM
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3.Trades are evil! single issues only for me.
Anyone can pick up a TPB, but it justs looks sooooo much nicer if you have all the single issues to a run. It can be a pain to drag out your single issues to read a story. I usually pick up TPBs from the library if I'm wanting to read something that I already have.
"Come and get one in the yarbles, if ya have any yarble, ya eunuch jelly thou!" - Alex(Malcolm McDowell) from Stanley Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange."
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Skint
A True Collector
United Kingdom
2157 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2006 : 10:54:47 AM
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Im gonna have to be a 3.
I dont have many trades, infact probably what I have you could count on both hands. I tend to only buy a TPB if the singles included are incomplete in my single run, or I dont want the hassle of re-reading and rebagging each single if I want to read the entire arc etc. I have some very nice 9.6+ copies of some Fathom / Witchblade issues, mostly DFE editions aswell which have never been opened ( DFE seal of approval :oP ) so I would rather have a TPB of these than me open and read this issue. Otherwise I tend to buy a crappy 2nd edition of the comic i need to read.
TPB generally.... Nooooo !
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AuburnTiger
A True Collector
USA
1678 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2006 : 11:50:31 AM
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| I don't understand why everyone thinks trades are evil. It's the same story, often with features such as writer's notes and artist sketches. My PREFERRED medium is the OGN, especially the ones that are around 64 pages. For instance, the Walt Disney's Comics and Stories and Uncle Scrooge books from Gemstone are similar to OGNs in their length and format. |
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Scarlettspiderg
A True Collector
United Kingdom
2149 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2006 : 6:41:20 PM
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I'm between 2. and 3.
I mainly buy singles but I also buy TPB's of the singles when I cant be bothered sorting through boxes. And I also buy TPB's of series I interested in but have gone out of print or are mid story - only then to go and track down the original issues.
As for why TPB's could be considered evil - they hurt single issue sales. And if single issue sales starting getting hurt (and getting lower) the title normally gets canned and then theres nothing for the TPB. On the flip side, a title can do really well in TPB format, and so this helps the singles.
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bdk1975
A True Collector
USA
705 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2006 : 7:54:53 PM
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| Love the trades, love the Hardcovers, love Masterworks and Archives. Present much nicer on a bookshelf, take up less room on the floor... and frankly, more economical as most trades are less than the cost of the original issues combined. They're also easier to read, easier to pull them off the shelf and then read a complete story at once. |
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comicbkfreak
A True Collector
USA
1354 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2006 : 7:59:10 PM
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Well since I'm on a teenage budget which means I'm broke all the time. I'm glad they make TPB's so if I can't afford the actual comics I can still read them although I don't buy current TPB's just like the Essential volumes that marvel makes and I plan on picking up Essential Moon Knight vol.1 pretty soon :]
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lookwhoitis
A True Collector
USA
2544 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2006 : 9:42:18 PM
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I dont like 'em, but I will buy them if I cannot find the complete run of a comic series I want to read immediately (see Walking Dead and Invincible)
I like reading the individual issues for the letters pages and because I'm Old School.
Exceptions to the rule are Sandman and Cerebus.. I have an almost complete run o fthe Sandman TPBs and will start on the Hardcovers when I complete that (and sell the TPBs when I complete the HCs). Only have the first 2 Cerebus Phone Books, but I may keep getting them after I complete my single issue Cerebus run. It will make it easier to re-read
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AuburnTiger
A True Collector
USA
1678 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2006 : 10:55:05 PM
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Originally posted by lookwhoitis
Exceptions to the rule are Sandman and Cerebus.. I have an almost complete run o fthe Sandman TPBs and will start on the Hardcovers when I complete that (and sell the TPBs when I complete the HCs). Only have the first 2 Cerebus Phone Books, but I may keep getting them after I complete my single issue Cerebus run. It will make it easier to re-read
"He gat mo' comics than a mofo." (Boyz in the Hood)
You may want to wait on the giant hardcovers of Sandman. I forget what they're called, but Sandman as well as the Death minis are getting the treatment. |
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advunderground
Enthusiast
USA
237 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2006 : 12:19:43 AM
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I buy and read trade books exclusively. Even when I see a comic I'd like to read, I find myself thinking "Boy, I hope they release that in a trade paperback...I'd like to read it."
Just prefer that to 32 pages with ads and whatnot breaking up the story. Just like I can't get into reading the daily comics too much, because I know I'm going to buy the Get Fuzzy collections later. |
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Elijya
A True Collector
USA
2987 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2006 : 11:44:26 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by AuburnTiger
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Originally posted by lookwhoitis
Exceptions to the rule are Sandman and Cerebus.. I have an almost complete run o fthe Sandman TPBs and will start on the Hardcovers when I complete that (and sell the TPBs when I complete the HCs). Only have the first 2 Cerebus Phone Books, but I may keep getting them after I complete my single issue Cerebus run. It will make it easier to re-read
"He gat mo' comics than a mofo." (Boyz in the Hood)
You may want to wait on the giant hardcovers of Sandman. I forget what they're called, but Sandman as well as the Death minis are getting the treatment.
Their getting Absolute Editions. Or at least that's the word, not definite announcements yet that I know of.
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mastertae
Enthusiast
297 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2006 : 9:22:33 PM
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marmat
A True Collector
Italy
2894 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2006 : 03:30:00 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by ben
I found a copy of Miracleman;The Golden age in a box of comics this past Saturday. Price paid for book $1.00. I thought it was a good deal.
This is a real steal. Is it the hard cover or the soft cover? And, is it NM?
Anyway, it's really great find.
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ben
Enthusiast
USA
243 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2006 : 10:00:27 PM
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What are your feelings on trade paperbacks?
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