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Sherlock_Holmes206
A True Collector
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 Posted - 01/17/2006 : 6:18:10 PM
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I have #'s 1-110 and a couple random issues after that. I have been thinking about collecting it again and trying to fill in my missing issues. Am I wasting my time? I don't even know what is going on in the series right now or if McFarlane has any input at all anymore.
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Elijya
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Posted - 01/17/2006 : 6:39:11 PM
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In my opinion, no, Spawn is not worth it in the least, and is in fact really terrible, and has been to one degree or another for it's entirity
But if you bought the first 110 issues, you clearly have some interest in the character
But I would take a step back and ask yourself if you really even enjoyed those 110 issues. I remember when I was a teenager, I had 100 issue runs of all the x-books - X-Men, Uncanny, X-Factor, X-Force, Cable, Wolverine. And then all of a sudden I realized how much I hated them. They were good characters, but the stories had just been getting crappier and crappier, and I'd just been buying them out of habit or some desire that maybe the next issue somebody would start to bring the book back to what it was when I started reading it when it was good, but it never happened.
So I dropped them all, flat out. I've taken peeks back in again every once in awhile, but for the most part, I know not to get sucked into the whole nonsense
So take a close look, especially at why you dropped them in the first place
I keep abreast of almost every single monthly title (even if I'm not physicly buying or reading each of them). I can make you some good suggestions of some books that would definitely be more worth your money if you'd like
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Andy
A True Collector
USA
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Posted - 01/17/2006 : 6:42:31 PM
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| Spawn since about #50 has been horrendous. I too have about 100 Spawn comics...Waste of money IMO. Get Hunter-Killer instead. It is a well-paced book with killer art. |
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Elijya
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Posted - 01/17/2006 : 6:49:05 PM
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if you like Spawn and you're into books with a darker tone, look into 30 days of Night, Fell, Lucifer, Sandman, the Walking Dead, Doc Frankenstein, or Preacher. All have some things in common with a book like Spawn, and they each have ten times the quality
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Sherlock_Holmes206
A True Collector
USA
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Posted - 01/17/2006 : 7:05:21 PM
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You guys are right, I guess I'll leave it alone. Most of my Spawn run I kept getting just to keep it intact, but I just couldn't take the stories anymore. I honestly thought by now it might have been cancelled, but seeing it is still going I was guessing maybe it was doing something interesting right now.
How are the sales on Spawn and is McFarlane even involved anymore in the actual book as far as storie ideas etc... |
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Andy
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Posted - 01/17/2006 : 7:21:17 PM
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| McFarlane has not been involved in the book in years. I think he may pencil the occasional book, but as far as writing the crappy stories...nope...when he wrote, they were decent. |
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Elijya
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Posted - 01/17/2006 : 10:10:08 PM
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pencil an occassional book nothing, he hasn't put a pencil to paper since he stopped drawing the book
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lookwhoitis
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Posted - 01/18/2006 : 01:42:51 AM
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I dig Spawn, and have ever since I saw the HBO cartoons. I have almost the complete run. Only missing abut 5 or so more recent issues. Spawn was one of the first comics I read after I came back from an almost 15 year sabbatical...
I haven't read past 110 or so (am waiting to complete the run to read to current in one swoop), so maybe the quality has lessened, but I still buy it. And I think I'll still enjoy it when I do get around to reading 'em.
Many people think Mcfarlene is an a$$, but he created a great character, and one that has had longevity. It might not be Comic book literature like Gaiman, Vaughn, or Bendis, but it's still a good old funnybook to my tastes...
"He gat mo' comics than a mofo." (Boyz in the Hood) |
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Andy
A True Collector
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Posted - 01/19/2006 : 6:02:53 PM
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| Ok, Elijya, I was being nice. LOL...McFarlane is an @$$ in that he has let his prized cow get fat and lazy not producing anything new in five+ years. Quite depressing to an old Spawn fan! |
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Sherlock_Holmes206
A True Collector
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6412 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2006 : 9:14:45 PM
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I remember early on McFarlane talking about how he would like Spawn to be a character that was around forever like Batman. It seems he doesn't have any real interest in the character, otherwise I would think he would take more of a hands on approach with Spawn. Do I think Spawn would ever be as loved as Batman for instance? Of course not, it just seems that since this was a character he created I would expect he would do whatever it takes to keep him in the limelight to the best of his ability.
That's why I have a hard time with most high profile creator owned projects. They go on and on talking about how they created these characters many years ago and how it was a life long dream to bring them to life. Than after half a dozen issues they jump ship and move on to other things. I respect guys like Dave Sims and Erik Larsen who stick with their characters. I'm not even a Larsen fan, I could never stand his art, but it's nice to see him still working on Savage Dragon all these years later, he obviously has love for his characters.
I know for most people it is strictly about money and I know McFarlane always talked about that in the Spawn letters page, about how he didn't believe there was money to be made in comic books. So how much does he really love Spawn and would it hurt him to see him fade away forever. I think as long as he was making money on other projects it wouldn't faze him that much. He can say what he wants to the contrary, I'll believe it when he shows it. |
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Elijya
A True Collector
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2987 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2006 : 03:36:25 AM
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All those early image guys were kind of jerks, the only ones I respect are Larsen (just for actually sticking with his book) and Keith (for producing the only really quality book of their first few years). Grell gets some props for Shaman, too. But that's it.
Once they made their millions, most sat back and either dropped their book or put it on auto pilot (like Spawn)
The fact is, I don't think Todd ever even LIKED comics, it's just that he was good at them. Once he established Spawn and made a few million off him and his merchandising, he spent his money buying sports teams and memoribilia
They had an image ten year anniversary hardcover planned a few years ago. It only just came out THREE YEARS LATE... because they were waiting on Todd
One of my local LCS managers, whenever he's reminded of the book Tribe, comments "man, those guys made so much money, they forgot to put out a second issue." And it's true - they were offered a multi million dollar offer for the liscense to develope Tribe into a movie before the first issue hit the stands. Understandably, they prefered to spend the next few years months playing video games and relaxing rather than trying to put more of their book out.
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metalfanatic
A True Collector
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Posted - 01/29/2006 : 06:01:20 AM
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Originally posted by Elijya
But I would take a step back and ask yourself if you really even enjoyed those 110 issues. I remember when I was a teenager, I had 100 issue runs of all the x-books - X-Men, Uncanny, X-Factor, X-Force, Cable, Wolverine. And then all of a sudden I realized how much I hated them. They were good characters, but the stories had just been getting crappier and crappier, and I'd just been buying them out of habit or some desire that maybe the next issue somebody would start to bring the book back to what it was when I started reading it when it was good, but it never happened.
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that is SO familiar!! |
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metalfanatic
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Posted - 01/29/2006 : 06:03:21 AM
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"Is Spawn worth picking up?"
pick it up... then put it back down and walk away slowly. |
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Andy
A True Collector
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Posted - 01/29/2006 : 2:43:59 PM
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| I concur! |
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Sherlock_Holmes206
A True Collector
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Posted - 01/31/2006 : 07:10:36 AM
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| What are the sales numbers on this book anyway? |
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Elijya
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Posted - 01/31/2006 : 10:23:04 AM
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according to ICv2, Spawn #150 (which was an anniversary issue, so sales numbers may be skewed) sold 40,000 copies in october to place 45th. The next two months saw an additional 5,000 copies ordered. Keep in mind that
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These estimates are based on ICv2 estimates of comic sales by Diamond North America during October, 2005. We are estimating actual sales by Diamond U.S. (primarily to North American comic stores), using Diamond's published sales indexes and publisher sales data to estimate a sales number for Batman (the anchor title Diamond uses in its calculations), and using that number and the indexes to estimate Diamond's sales on the remaining titles. We can check the accuracy of our numbers by comparing the Batman number that we calculate using multiple data points; our numbers for Batman are within 1/10 of 1% of each other, ensuring a high degree of accuracy. They do not include sales made by Diamond UK, orders on these titles placed after the end of October, or copies purchased by Diamond but held in inventory at the end of October.
I didn't see spawn #151 in the subsequent months, so it may be running late
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Elijya
A True Collector
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Posted - 01/31/2006 : 10:24:03 AM
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yeah, the anniversary issue really skewed the numbers. The october sales chart shows #149 in 83rd place with 27,000 copies
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Andy
A True Collector
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Posted - 01/31/2006 : 2:17:43 PM
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| Yea...anniversary of a promising book being abandoned by its creators. |
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