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Havok
A True Collector
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 Posted - 11/09/2005 : 7:10:12 PM
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Well Marvel has gone and done it incredibly enough... what'd they do? They've managed to rebound from what I consider one of the worst cross overs in a very long time, into a series that I'm absolutly stoked about. House of M: The Day After was brilliant as far as I'm concerned. Granted, this is just the start of Decimation so I could easily change my tune, but after the one shot I have to say I'm pretty excited. The one consistent thing throughout the book I noticed was that I absolutly hated what was going on.. I felt an emotional response throughout the whole book, and for me at least.. really hit home. I'm very interested in seeing where this goes, and with so many hints about where the story is going to go in the future, I can't wait. I'm curious to hear what the rest of you thought, because I thought the set up was brilliant, so I'm sure I'll have much more to say as the weeks go by.
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kingofrulers
A True Collector
USA
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Posted - 11/09/2005 : 7:19:46 PM
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I actually did like it too. I was just about to post a thread on this but you beat me to it.
The art was just okay, but the story was solid. I am questioning one major point though. Why is everybody making a big deal out of it? lol For years and years so many of these people wanted to live like normal people and have no powers. Now that many of their wishes have come true they get all whimpified. What's with that? It seems they are not able to make up their minds. Even so, I just finished reading it and it was so good. Why didn't Claremont write like this when he started a year ago? I must say that I don't like the way the Sentinels looked. I want them to look like traditional Sentinels (X-men #141 style). But the story was great. Finally, Wolverine was used the way I want him to be. Not the primary character, but when he does pop up it's great.
Also, I think it's hilarious that Scarlet Witch has been responsible for so much crap lately lol. From a handful of Avengers dying and the subsequent disbanding of the Avengers, to the crappy House of M and still managing to reach over into a third major event. I can picture Scarlet Witch walking in the X-mansion and it being full of X-men, Avengers, FF and everyone else involved in any way to the events she caused. She would walk in and say, "hey guys, whatcha lookin' at?". Then the group of people silently walk closer and closer........lol
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cagliostro
A True Collector
USA
981 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2005 : 9:41:56 PM
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I liked it but I did have some problems with it. I don't like how every time you turn around their is some mutant hunting group formed. We have this O.N.E. unit now. where the hell did they come from? We have mutant hunters within a stones throw of the mansion? WTF? How are their even mutant hunters left alive at this point. Why are they truck bombing a building suddenly? That takes planning and forsite to build and plan, they had one laying around for when the mutants lost there powers? It broke my suspesion of disbelief. Frankly I don't think our goverment would ever hunt mutants down to kill them, they would want them to work for them in attacking other people and would nurture them like a natural resource.
I did like the part about the Blob though, that made me laugh. BTW why isn't Illiyana alive now? She was in the House of M, I thought she escaped at the end. Where is she now?
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dumdum
A True Collector
USA
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Posted - 11/09/2005 : 11:16:03 PM
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Originally posted by cagliostro
I liked it but I did have some problems with it. I don't like how every time you turn around their is some mutant hunting group formed. We have this O.N.E. unit now. where the hell did they come from? We have mutant hunters within a stones throw of the mansion? WTF? How are their even mutant hunters left alive at this point. Why are they truck bombing a building suddenly? That takes planning and forsite to build and plan, they had one laying around for when the mutants lost there powers? It broke my suspesion of disbelief. Frankly I don't think our goverment would ever hunt mutants down to kill them, they would want them to work for them in attacking other people and would nurture them like a natural resource.
I did like the part about the Blob though, that made me laugh. BTW why isn't Illiyana alive now? She was in the House of M, I thought she escaped at the end. Where is she now?
Cagliostro
This reminds me of a great mini series DC(I think) put out years ago called psycho. The setup was that superpowered beings were recruited by countries as weapons, including giving them tax breaks, health benefits, etc.
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askanison23
Journeyman
USA
194 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2005 : 12:30:57 AM
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NEW X-men #20 was also good, lots of emotion in there. I think Claremont's writing was a little better in the day after as it is in uncanny ... hopefully he can stay on track. I also did not like O*N*E* -'s it's just an excuse to sell a book. Sentinels cannot sell a book alone, i think it's a terrible idea, otherwise all the other stuff is great so far.
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askanison23
Journeyman
USA
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Posted - 11/10/2005 : 12:32:55 AM
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Oh, secondly, why couldn't Mammomax just die, that character sucks. Just stupid, I liked when you couldn't tell which mutants were really mutants, except for a few. Whatever happened to "they hide among us", c'mon a mutant that has the body of a man mixed with an elephant, does anyone else think this character is absolutely HORRID!
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wolviexman
Master Collector
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Posted - 11/10/2005 : 01:13:04 AM
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The worst character as far as being an obvious mutant is Beak...terrible, terrible character..almost thought Marvel are showing a lack of respect to the readership...  
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Havok
A True Collector
USA
1028 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2005 : 03:15:45 AM
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On the topic of sentinels, I'm pretty sure that during the decimation arc they are going to be there to protect the x-men (at least for a while) rather then fight them. It just seems that marvel has been hinting at this with references about help from strange fellows, and with the way the book ended, as well as various quites from the O.N.E. Maybe I'm wrong, but thats how i see things as of now.
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cagliostro
A True Collector
USA
981 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2005 : 10:25:49 AM
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I read it with an eye towards that but I could not make a decision either way. One of the decimation titles covers does show wolverine attacking a sentinel though.
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kian
Journeyman
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/11/2005 : 6:40:16 PM
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I personally thought HoM got got a lot of unfair critiscm. Was it insanely hyped? Yes. Was it terribly bad? No.
the hoM mini was used as a platform the launch the new face of all x-books in the same way that Identity crisis and the subsequent 4 minis was used to lead in to infinite crisis. While the pacing of HoM left a lot to be desired (blame Bendis) and could easily be done in 5-6 issues instead of 8, at its core it still had a solid story (albeit told in an extremely long winded, roundabout way)
Decimation the Day after imho is awesome in terms of the time it took to tie up the loose ends of HoM (which what i felt HoM #8 should have been) and setting up more stories for the future. I have been one of those Claremont detractors since he returned to UCX but his writing in Decimation is awesome and one can only hope he can carry that through into his X books.
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tristang
A True Collector
USA
502 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2005 : 1:28:42 PM
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It was very, very good. Your heart goes out to those that lost their powers that didn't want to, ala Jubilee. You also feel sorry for people like Wither (New X-Men #20) who wanted to lose their powers but didn't.
No more Tag though. Damn. I liked him.
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cagliostro
A True Collector
USA
981 Posts |
Posted - 11/14/2005 : 5:22:13 PM
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BTW wither bothered me. There seems to be no reason behind who kept there powers and who didn't. I hope this gets explained in an inteligent way very soon.
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Havok
A True Collector
USA
1028 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2005 : 01:40:41 AM
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Originally posted by cagliostro
BTW wither bothered me. There seems to be no reason behind who kept there powers and who didn't. I hope this gets explained in an inteligent way very soon.
Cagliostro
HAHAHAHAHA.... that'll be the day.
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askanison23
Journeyman
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Posted - 11/15/2005 : 06:49:14 AM
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It was very, very good. Your heart goes out to those that lost their powers that didn't want to, ala Jubilee. You also feel sorry for people like Wither (New X-Men #20) who wanted to lose their powers but didn't.
No more Tag though. Damn. I liked him.
Well, one thing I didn't like is that Wolverine calls X-23 and not Jubilee. I know Jubilee had a chance to call Logan, but it seems like he should be more worried about his old "young charge" than his new one. The writer's should remember how much time Wolvie and Jubes spent together.
Tag is one of the worst ideas for a mutant power "Telepathic Repeller"?! ... terrible. Thank god he has no more powers, this was also the POV of the marvel people in charge of Decimation, they couldn't wait to get rid of Tag's powers. It seems that the characters who didn't keep their powers are the characters people care the least about -> Iceman, Jubilee, Blob, Moonstar, Chamber.
I hope marvel considered the interesting stories they could tell when they made these choices and not JUST lets go the easy route and screw with the characters that their won't be a backlash over. I would've loved to see a huge character like Storm, Rogue, Gambit, Cyclops, Colossus, Emma Frost, lose their powers. Anyway I still like the IDEA overall and I think very good things will come from Decimation.
I'm on the wagon for the ride. Although I don't think I'll be picking up New Excalibur, X-Factor, or Sentinel Squad ONE.
I expect in a year or so they will all be canceled or close to it, and I can pick them up for 1/3 to 1/2 of the cost.
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metalfanatic
A True Collector
USA
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Posted - 11/15/2005 : 09:25:54 AM
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"I know Jubilee had a chance to call Logan, but it seems like he should be more worried about his old "young charge" than his new one. The writer's should remember how much time Wolvie and Jubes spent together."
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Havok
A True Collector
USA
1028 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2005 : 6:59:24 PM
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Originally posted by metalfanatic
"I know Jubilee had a chance to call Logan, but it seems like he should be more worried about his old "young charge" than his new one. The writer's should remember how much time Wolvie and Jubes spent together."
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and Jubilee was a WAY better character than x-23.
Agreed... sadly though she really wasn't all that great either way. But I'd still MUCH rather see her then x-23 any day of the week.
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22Gbloodangel
Collector
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/15/2005 : 8:30:48 PM
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It seems that the characters who didn't keep their powers are the characters people care the least about -> Iceman, Jubilee, Blob, Moonstar, Chamber.
Personally I'm a little gutted Bobby DRake isn't going to be around in a mutant capacity. His cheesy ice jokes and frost quips in the midst of battle is half of what Marvel superteams is all about... :)
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Skint
A True Collector
United Kingdom
2157 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2005 : 5:20:30 PM
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Originally posted by askanison23
Oh, secondly, why couldn't Mammomax just die, that character sucks. Just stupid, I liked when you couldn't tell which mutants were really mutants, except for a few. Whatever happened to "they hide among us", c'mon a mutant that has the body of a man mixed with an elephant, does anyone else think this character is absolutely HORRID!
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take
I agree, terrible character and they should of used this chance to get rid of him altogether.
I really enjoyed the day after, even straight from the start with the blob 
And the best quote of the comic goes to a police chief :
Bishop " How BAD is it Chief ? "
Chief " Truth Bishop? Your the first mutant Ive seen today that still has his Mojo "
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