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Posted 4/22/2008 8:07:54 PM


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Considering the amount of scrutiny that some books have gotten (like the suspected (at the time) Ewert books), all it would take is for a few people who had scans of books before they submitted, compared to the ones they got back for such a plot to totally destroy the company. 

Two thoughts. A book would have to be close to the same grade to escape notice for most people. Unless you're dealing with high grade moderns (9.8 or above) you wouldn't be able to tell them apart. It would be easier for CGC to just massage the grade in their favour than swap a book.

The second is that the book would have to be of suffciently high worth to make a swap worthwhile. I doubt a guy submitting an Action Comics #1 wouldn't have scans or pictures of his book.  Such a swap would be hard to pull of undetected.

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I seriously doubt CGC would switch books, but some dealers that submit toCGC for the public could conceivably.


Not to sound like too much of a noob but wouldn't you be able to tell if someone cracked oneof the CGC cases? Have there been proven cases of people successfully "counterfitting" CGC books?

This scares me more than the possibility of CGC doing it.

GG


Haven't been any cases I've heard of. I'm sure it'd be discovered pretty fast. As a practical matter, a book that was worth the cost of counterfeiting a CGC case, label, etc., would draw way too much scrutiny to succeed. Each slab is assigned a number that is very easily traceable.

And yeah, unless you're talking a very, very sophisticated operation (which would get busted by the serial number anyway), you're going to be able to tell a slab is cracked.

You're far, far safer buying CGC specifically (PGX is OK for modern) than buying raw.
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I too have wondered about this but have never really been too concerened because I have yet to send any books in for grading. However, this may change the next time I am back in the UK as I reckon it is time to send some of my books in.

I think King makes a very valid point about CGC's integrity.

I will have to decide whether I use a third party to send my books in or just package them up and do it myself.



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Posted 4/23/2008 12:24:21 PM


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I too have wondered about this but have never really been too concerened because I have yet to send any books in for grading. However, this may change the next time I am back in the UK as I reckon it is time to send some of my books in.

I think King makes a very valid point about CGC's integrity.

I will have to decide whether I use a third party to send my books in or just package them up and do it myself.


Just send them yourself. It's really easy. I don't know why anybody uses a middleman -- which does increase the potential for problems. You're already going to be paying through the nose in postage if you're going to be doing it from the UK.
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