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Posted 10/31/2009 3:13:40 PM


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texranger37 (10/30/2009)
Hey!!

What a big difference!! It doesn't even look like the same book.

Thanks Tex

Why must you humidify the book first? Dampening the pages makes it easier to press?

Its not a must on all books and this book may have came out as good without it but many do not and require humidification. I have read that if paper is bone dry, depending on the issue the book has it wont press the defect out. I want to mention I barely expose the book to the steam, passing over it as fast as I can.


The book looks great, but like you said, a little pancaked (but 100% better han before). How could you keep from pancaking something like a 80 or 100 page Giant comic?

TEX

Use less humidity and or pressure. I would 1st try a pressing using no humidity and low pressure and then step it up depending on the outcome. As I get more practice I will be able to tell ahead of time which way I need to go with it. The bigger books have a tendency not to look pancakes anyway since they are so thick.

I have ammended my origianl post to include this:

I pass over the steam so fast, that paper still feels very dry. The paper is exposed to a single quick pass.

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Posted 10/31/2009 3:15:44 PM


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thatjerk (10/30/2009)
Nice example. This appears to be a book that has actually been improved from it's previous state without any additional damage in the process. I'm not a fan of pressing though.

Coming from you Aaron that is a big compliment. Thanks

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Posted 10/31/2009 7:11:58 PM


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MCP (10/31/2009)
[quote]texranger37 (10/30/2009)
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Use less humidity and or pressure. I would 1st try a pressing using no humidity and low pressure and then step it up depending on the outcome. As I get more practice I will be able to tell ahead of time which way I need to go with it. The bigger books have a tendency not to look pancakes anyway since they are so thick.


Let me explain,

I have seen 100 Page Giant comics that have been so flattened at the binding that the spine (which is usually white) ends up looking like part of the cover. On the old 80 or 100 pagers, the binding was supposed to look more square, but if it's pressed too much, it becomes really flat which distorts the shape of the book itself.

If you were to put such a book under you press, what mechanism would you use to prevent over-flattening? I know that you said that you could use less pressure, but maybe because I've never used the press, I'm thinking that you would need some type of device to prevent the press from going to far, or to mark a stopping point.

I have no knowledge of pressing (except what you have taught me by e-mail and on this thread) so this could just be crazytalk.

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Posted 11/2/2009 2:05:15 AM


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[quote]texranger37 (10/30/2009)
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Use less humidity and or pressure. I would 1st try a pressing using no humidity and low pressure and then step it up depending on the outcome. As I get more practice I will be able to tell ahead of time which way I need to go with it. The bigger books have a tendency not to look pancakes anyway since they are so thick.


Let me explain,

I have seen 100 Page Giant comics that have been so flattened at the binding that the spine (which is usually white) ends up looking like part of the cover. On the old 80 or 100 pagers, the binding was supposed to look more square, but if it's pressed too much, it becomes really flat which distorts the shape of the book itself.

If you were to put such a book under you press, what mechanism would you use to prevent over-flattening? I know that you said that you could use less pressure, but maybe because I've never used the press, I'm thinking that you would need some type of device to prevent the press from going to far, or to mark a stopping point.

I have no knowledge of pressing (except what you have taught me by e-mail and on this thread) so this could just be crazytalk.

TEX

A spacer might be a useful tool for that problem.

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Posted 11/5/2009 8:26:58 PM


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Pressing Experiment 10100101553

Ok, at the advice of Scott, I performed this experiment with less heat and humidity.
I did everything the same as before except I reduced the temp to 175 F and only steamed the outside of cover and focused a little extra on the spine.
Enjoy that new comic shine. My next experiment will be to try a lower temperature like 155 F.



















 

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Posted 11/5/2009 8:42:36 PM
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Very nice.
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Posted 11/7/2009 9:05:22 AM


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50AE DE (11/5/2009)
Very nice.

WOW!

   Gooder and gooder each time! NICE!!

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Posted 11/7/2009 2:13:47 PM


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Thanks Tex and 50 AE DE. I am getting closer thats for sure. I wanted to say Tex that with the glue bound books there is no sure fire way to press them and not risk squishing them while applying enough pressure to get the wrinkles out.

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Posted 11/8/2009 11:09:19 PM


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Those really look great!
But are there some drawbacks? Does it wash out the color on the inside pages at all?



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Posted 11/17/2009 4:21:47 PM


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sclingerman (11/8/2009)
Those really look great!
But are there some drawbacks? Does it wash out the color on the inside pages at all?

No drawbacks.

I was going to wait till I had the perfect example but since you have brought it up here is my 1st annual that I pressed with a system to prevent it from being squished.
I have a regular bound book I will post ASAP and better example's of Annual's as well.




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