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oxbladder (9/6/2009)
Since you offer this service to the public it is it important to have high def scans of the before and after and even side shots. People need to know if there was any adverse affects caused by the pressing or if the book lays flat (I remember you showing one of your previous examples and the book was all rippled).My camera and scanner are on default and thats good enough. Did you see Tex's A4? Its not wavy is it? What is Important is that people stop trying to knock me down every chance they get. Its important to listen and you will see, I do pressing and dry cleaning absolutly free, The people who send in their comics, Are very happy with me. 
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Let's make this perfectly clear. I didn't criticize you nor did the person who asked for more images. If you want to be selective in what you show and what you explain then expect a rocky road.
Right now you are on a road to disaster you keep doing things your own way and it will result in you being one of the many that continue to make it very difficult for professional restoration to gain any wider acceptance. There have been enough people that have practiced amateur repairs to the detriment of the community.
No matter how hard you try you will ALWAYS be an amateur since you have chosen a path which will not teach you what you need to know in order not to do further damage to books. Whats worse is that you ply your trade on many books which do not need it and have suffered further damage as a result. They are not restored they are repaired and there is a world of difference between the two.
What's worse is you offer your services to the public (whether paid or not and you do ask for money so you are being paid) like you are actually qualified. You are not you are not even close to the point where you should be touching anything worth more than $2
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oxbladder (9/6/2009)
Let's make this perfectly clear. I didn't criticize you nor did the person who asked for more images. If you want to be selective in what you show and what you explain then expect a rocky road.
Right now you are on a road to disaster you keep doing things your own way and it will result in you being one of the many that continue to make it very difficult for professional restoration to gain any wider acceptance. There have been enough people that have practiced amateur repairs to the detriment of the community.
No matter how hard you try you will ALWAYS be an amateur since you have chosen a path which will not teach you what you need to know in order not to do further damage to books. Whats worse is that you ply your trade on many books which do not need it and have suffered further damage as a result. They are not restored they are repaired and there is a world of difference between the two.
What's worse is you offer your services to the public (whether paid or not and you do ask for money so you are being paid) like you are actually qualified. You are not you are not even close to the point where you should be touching anything worth more than $2You're starting to sound like a broken record. Give it a rest already. I know more now than you will ever know which is almost nothing. I read every night till I am too tired from some of the best conservators in the world so piss off. I am done being nice to someone who is not and I don't need you raining on every post. Don’t bother posting again because this will be my last acknowledgement of your comments with exception to a few choice words..
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“Practice means to perform, over and over again in the face of all obstacles, some act of vision, of faith, of desire. Practice is a means of inviting the perfection desired.”
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MasterCPU (9/7/2009)
You're starting to sound like a broken record. Give it a rest already. I know more now than you will ever know which is almost nothing. I read every night till I am too tired from some of the best conservators in the world so piss off. I am done being nice to someone who is not and I don't need you raining on every post. Don’t bother posting again because this will be my last acknowledgement of your comments with exception to a few choice words..
Funny thing is I have never professed to know more than you about restoration practises. I do know though that just reading about it and practicing what you read is not EVER going to make you professional. So go right ahead and think you are a pro. One day you will be explaining it it to an irate customer or the law and they won't be so accommodating.
You sound more like a broken record:
"Boo-hoo you were mean to me. Poor little me.
I have been reading stuff on the internet and practicing what i read. That makes me good enough to work on people's book and take money for it.
Your a big poo-poo head so I am not going to listen to you. I am not going to speak to you again."
lol! No skin off my back. No doubt you will keep posting and making a fool of yourself and the hundreds of critics/enemies you have made in a few short months will be around to comment, including myself.
Do things right and it will all go away. Something tell me though that isn't going to happen.
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Hey Oxbladder, what you are saying is, that all the autodidact people in the world would never be professional at what they doe since they doesn't have a teacher in front of them. So all those home course given by universities are dooty right??
I tried to change the world, but god won't give me the source code, I tried to do it in Proton and failed.
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don't get me wrong here, I have nothing against anybody on this forum but i reed a couple of post from MasterCPU since I was interested on the subject and every time there seem to be someone to dis his progress and it always seem to be the 2 or 3 same members. how come??
I tried to change the world, but god won't give me the source code, I tried to do it in Proton and failed.
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Virii-IX (9/7/2009)
don't get me wrong here, I have nothing against anybody on this forum but i reed a couple of post from MasterCPU since I was interested on the subject and every time there seem to be someone to dis his progress and it always seem to be the 2 or 3 same members. how come??
I know I'm going to get a Master beat down for even bothering to respond to this but I will anyways.
I think that the general concensus is that MasterCPU is putting the cart before the horse in most cases and it is not because of any personal dislike for him even though he will try and play it otherwise.
He has performed practice work on a number of key comics; Hulk 181, ASM 129, Avengers 4, color touch  on a key Batman, issue rather than practice on low dollar comics.
I think one of the biggest problems was the whole early Hulk issue (a 104 I believe) where he married a different back cover and then was promoting what a nice job he did on the restoration with out disclosing the cover marriage. This however, was quickly ferreted out by someone over on the CGC boards.
There are other issues that I think lead to a lack of immediate trust for MasterCPU including his new relationship with PGX (as promoted on his website). If you don't know the history behind PGX and restoration, Google is your friend. There is also the fact that he claims to not charge for his work, only be reimbursed for supplies (semantics in my and others eyes).
I think what you see from a lot of members that may post, in what MasterCPU sees as negative, is a protectionist type attitude towards amateur restoration. There is a big difference between knowing when and where to perform restoration (preservation) and doing as much work as needed to maximize the look of a book. With all the negativity towards restoration and some of the previous scandals in this hobby, many people are wary of potential non-disclosure. Simply being a member of NOD is not enough. Trust is not implied it is earned. To assume otherwise is foolish.
FWIW, Ox's request was not out of line nor impolite in anyway. While he may not post much since the change over of the forums, those who have been around for a few years know that he is not trying to "bash" MasterCPU. This forum used to have a totally different feel and many of the knowledgeable posters, no longer post here. There has been a change of the guard in this forum and alot of knowledge was lost during the change over. (Some for the good and some for the bad, but that is another discussion) His point is extremely valid and IMO almost required. MasterCPU's photos are low res, off angle and never quite show the whole story of the book. Almost Danny Dupcak looking in a way. (And no that is not an accusation, just a comparison).
MasterCPU's perceived attitude is I'm going to do it my way and too bad if you don't like it. If you disagree with me you are just trying to put me down. Until he starts to listen to the experts in the field, (and I don't include myself in this in any way) he will never be considered a professional.
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Thanks Universal Soldier for the detail reply, it's very appreciated. I was just wondering because i saw 2 or 3 reply on other post (still about mastercpu resto) about the fact that someone without a teacher could not achieve anything and i found those type of response a bit misguided. But like I said not here to make any enemies only here to share with other passionate.
Have a great labour day man!!
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