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Great feedback everyone, this is my first post and I appreciate all of your involvement.
I just thought of a few more, the Marvel Team up 141 and Spec Spidey 90, both came out same time as 252, all tied for first black costume in major tittles.
Slaymaster- I can see your points but you are incorrect about Annual 14, the guide states it as the first gambit, and it did come out just before 266, and I feel 5 pages is enough to signify at the first appearance, so does overstreet.
Texranger37-Blue beetle 1 and Tales Titans 44 are right on the money, what about new mutants 86, 87, and 98, 98 (1st Deadpool) is going for 185-225 CGC 9.8 on ebay!
keep em coming guys!!
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| Yep, you're right... the annual did come out before issue 266. Which is strange in a couple ways. Even though the date is 'late august', I remember the 'month' on the comic cover was usually two (or three?) ahead of the actual month, and from memory annuals came out in the summertime (June, July)... so I would have thought 266 came out first. Also the annual has a 'checklist' showing #'s 265 and 266 without showing the annual (had a couple other annuals in the checklist though); looking at 266, there was no checklist, and the adds were different. An ad in the annual had 'Dick Tracy' coming out June 15, an ad in 266 had 'Arachnophobia' coming out July 20. And the annual wasn't just a 'cameo' appearance, it was a full appearance... so I would think this needs to be changed in the guide. (Might want to get the word out, people paying big $$$ for 266 when it isn't even Gambit's actual first appearance.  )
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Gen13 33, awesome pick
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I actually have that X-Men annual. Raise the price, lol!
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I just thought of 2 big ones, X-force 2, second Deadpool and Question 17, it has an obscure reference really cool tie in/flashback of the watchmen, great story too!!!
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Slaymaster (7/30/2009)
Yep, you're right... the annual did come out before issue 266. Which is strange in a couple ways. Even though the date is 'late august', I remember the 'month' on the comic cover was usually two (or three?) ahead of the actual month, and from memory annuals came out in the summertime (June, July)... so I would have thought 266 came out first. Also the annual has a 'checklist' showing #'s 265 and 266 without showing the annual (had a couple other annuals in the checklist though); looking at 266, there was no checklist, and the adds were different. An ad in the annual had 'Dick Tracy' coming out June 15, an ad in 266 had 'Arachnophobia' coming out July 20.
And the annual wasn't just a 'cameo' appearance, it was a full appearance... so I would think this needs to be changed in the guide. (Might want to get the word out, people paying big $$$ for 266 when it isn't even Gambit's actual first appearance. )
How was he presented in the stories? Were the X-Men characters around Gambit in the annual also in #266? Whom did he meet first?
I believe it was closer to a 3 month gap when #266 came out, so that would mean it came out in late May or early June. I happen to have 2 promo cards for Marvel's 1990 annuals(you can see 1 of them on my messy desktop pic http://www.comicspriceguide.com/boards/Topic35440-36-4.aspx#bm67275). "Spidey's Totally Tiny Adventure" annual storyline shipped 6/5(ASM #24), 6/12(SSM #10), and 6/19(WoSM #6). "The Terminus Factor" annual storyline shipped 7/3(CaptAm #9)-7/31(Avengers #19). UXM an #14 was part four of the four part "Days of Future Past" so I believe the earliest it would have shipped was 6/19 if the first part shipped at the end of May.
I have a copy of #14 that I had priced in 1992-1993 at $20 with a notation that it was the 1st app. of Gambit. I probably got my info from Wizard then. I can't find any of my back issues(I need to clean out my closet), but I believe it had been previously recognized as the 1st app. The guide identifies 266 as the 1st full app. Did he have a cameo at the end of 265?
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Lots of price discussions these days. Remember prices in guides are not written in stone guides can NEVER be 100% accurate. Many of the books listed in these posts are pretty much dead characters (dead as in no longer in production), there are plenty of copies to go around, or no one cares for them any more. Some are valued in small circles of collectors or may only be "hot" in regions either physical regions or virtual regions. Lots of people love to use eBay as a guide when often the best guide is going out to an actual store and seeing what they have in stock. One problem you have with eBay is you are pitting collectors in dry regions all over the world with sellers in a region which may be rich in certain books and high prices fetched will fuel even higher prices until people have had enough and the prices start coming down or the "stock" is redistributed.
I understand people's frustrations when their valued books aren't going up in price but it is a fact of life. One series I have been collecting for a long time now, first series Wonder Woman, hardly moves in value except a few chosen issues or the highest grades and I can tell you the run from 40-112 can be extremely hard to finish because they are rare to find and even rarer in high grade. Solid VGs or better often net well over guide prices throughout the year but every year there is hardly any change in value. Frustrating yes but in the end really how many folks actually are collecting the book?
IMO freaking out about the prices of your books ... especially when you are not selling ... is pointless. In the end a book is only worth what someone is willing to spend on it and more often than not it is only around guide price. For many moderns it is less than guide.
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Comic stores are over rated. Comic store owners over price on everything.
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oxbladder (7/31/2009)
Lots of price discussions these days. Remember prices in guides are not written in stone guides can NEVER be 100% accurate. Many of the books listed in these posts are pretty much dead characters (dead as in no longer in production), there are plenty of copies to go around, or no one cares for them any more. Some are valued in small circles of collectors or may only be "hot" in regions either physical regions or virtual regions. Lots of people love to use eBay as a guide when often the best guide is going out to an actual store and seeing what they have in stock. One problem you have with eBay is you are pitting collectors in dry regions all over the world with sellers in a region which may be rich in certain books and high prices fetched will fuel even higher prices until people have had enough and the prices start coming down or the "stock" is redistributed.
I understand people's frustrations when their valued books aren't going up in price but it is a fact of life. One series I have been collecting for a long time now, first series Wonder Woman, hardly moves in value except a few chosen issues or the highest grades and I can tell you the run from 40-112 can be extremely hard to finish because they are rare to find and even rarer in high grade. Solid VGs or better often net well over guide prices throughout the year but every year there is hardly any change in value. Frustrating yes but in the end really how many folks actually are collecting the book?
IMO freaking out about the prices of your books ... especially when you are not selling ... is pointless. In the end a book is only worth what someone is willing to spend on it and more often than not it is only around guide price. For many moderns it is less than guide.
Oxbladder,
You have some good points but I have to disagree with you overall statement. The whole reason I created this post is that a good portion but not all of the issues I mentioned are selling via E-bay for much greater than the value in the guide. What makes E-bay such a good indicator of actual value is that people from all over world can bid up a given issue in a specific grade. So if you take the average sale price on a given book/grade you can pretty much come up with a more accurate "true" value of a particular book. A good example being New Mutants 98, unslabbed this book list in the current oversteet guide for $5.00. On average this same book is selling for 28-48 dollars unlsabbed in NM, and if you get that same book graded CGC it can fetch up to 200 on average in 9.8 condition. I have seen these same price gaps between guide value and e-bay averages on multiple books, that is what has prompted me to create this post. Because and I quote you, "In the end a book is only worth what someone is willing to spend" and clearly people are spending more than the guide price on specific books, and that is what this post is about!
Thanks for your reply
keep em comin' guys
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oxbladder (7/31/2009)
Remember prices in guides are not written in stone guides can NEVER be 100% accurate.
Meaning the prices can be a topic of debate - friendly or not - depending on if you're trying to buy/sell or just snooping/chatting.
Talking about comic prices online does make you a bit of a geek, but that's why I'm here. 
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