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| Hi, I won this copy of Shazam #1, PGX graded 9.6 with White Pages, on Ebay. I assumed that a grade of 9.6 would assure that the comic did not have condition issues like these. I don't have many PGX comics, but the few I do have looked pretty good. This one is a major disappointment. As can be seen in the pics, there are two spine creases with color break, the bottom staple is rusted and the ink appears to have flaked off at the top right of the book, where it says 20c. Would you grade this a 9.6? I wouldn't. I would say this is maybe an 8.0 or 8.5? What would you grade it, assuming everything else about the book is perfect? Thanks! 
Spine crease with color break 
Spine crease with color break 
Rusted staple 
Ink flaking on 20c 
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Ouch, another reason not to use PGX. If that staple is rusted this grades a heck of a lot lower but it could have happened after the fact...
All the other stuff... I would think a lower grade is more in order.
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Definitely not a 9.6. Perhaps a 9.0 for the grade (if that rusty staple happened after grading). It's not in the 9's now for sure though.
Aaron
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| The label says it was graded in 09/08, so I can't imagine the staple has rusted since then. I'd say it looked like this when graded. How could they miss all these problems?
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tegrady (7/2/2009)
The label says it was graded in 09/08, so I can't imagine the staple has rusted since then. I'd say it looked like this when graded. How could they miss all these problems?
Knowing their history, yup.
Search here :
http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=cfrm&c=5
or google PGX to find some of the documented issues
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Definitely not a 9.6. Perhaps a 9.0 for the grade (if that rusty staple happened after grading). It's not in the 9's now for sure though.
WOW.
I have to agree with Aaron. It's just shocking. Are you sure it wasn't cracked open and replaced? I have all of 6 graded comics, so what do I know? But can you crack a case open a re-seal it to make it look professionally done. I just can't believe that someone would rate that comic so highly.
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| I don't believe you can crack them open and then re-seal them to look like new. I looked all over the case and the case appears intact. There are no signs of tampering. I would say that whoever graded it looked at it very quickly and not too closely (it looked fine to me until I looked at it very closely). Or, the grader just does not know how to grade. This has definitely turned me off to PGX for good.
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| Wow. That is crazy. I guess I have been undergrading all my books. Actually......after seeing those pictures and that grade....I have a lot of GEM MINT 10.0's in my collection. Woo hooo!!!! I only have a handful of graded books, and they are all CGC. If I were you, I would send those pictures to PGX and ask them to tell their graders to stop smoking funny things while they are working. They really should comp you something. They always have a table at the shows here in Portland. I'd love to take that book to the next show and give them some nice free advertising.
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tegrady (7/2/2009)
I don't believe you can crack them open and then re-seal them to look like new. I looked all over the case and the case appears intact. There are no signs of tampering.
I would say that whoever graded it looked at it very quickly and not too closely (it looked fine to me until I looked at it very closely). Or, the grader just does not know how to grade.
This has definitely turned me off to PGX for good.
Maybe the comic was switched,
It happened to Magic Dan. That's just...I mean Ray Charles could grade that better.
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PGX sucks sour frog ass. If you want your comics "graded" by a guy in his mother's house (garage) and don't mind hit-or-miss resto-detection, PGX is for you.
'Nuff said.
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