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Posted 6/19/2009 4:20:25 PM


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I've been wondering on this topic for a while but finally got off my *** to scan a recent comic that displayed what I have been seeing more and more commonly in newer books the past year.  Something during the new printing process is creating minute dings/cracks along the spine.  These are not usually visible unless you hold the comic up to the light and watch it reflect. Tell me I'm not alone in seeing these and what are you doing for grading with them? Below is a scan of Uncanny X-Men 511 that I picked up last week that has some of the more pronounced examples of this.

Above the hand about 3/4 of the way up is the best example.  There is another above the bottom staple as well.  Above the cross on the spine is another one but it didn't come out that well in the scan.

I have been weighting these like minor printing defects rather than true spine damage/creasing so far. Anyone else noticing this type of issue more and more and what do you make of it?



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Posted 6/19/2009 10:47:01 PM


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Considering that all the assembly lines use high-speed automated feeds in several areas of the process,,,I'll bet that's what's causing them...

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Posted 7/4/2009 11:16:50 AM
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My ex-brother in law has a small advertising company that produces

everything from the supermarket weekly flyers on newsprint up to

highend glossy pamphlets that are used by the local highend

real estate firms. Rob has some moderately high end print equipment that

requires computer control to adjust just about every part of the production.

Our nephew is his production manager and while he's VERY versed on how

production defects occur in the printing process. The diagonal creases you

are seeing occur when the final fold process occurs just after staple binding,

and just before the trimming process. Generally the progressive fold rollers

are out of adjustment an ever so slight amount. The printing firm tries its

best to minimize any printing flaws, but manual inspections are required to

verify the flaws, and thousands of finished pieces may be boxed up before

any rolling adjustments are made. Stephen is also a comic book geek like me.

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Posted 7/4/2009 3:13:48 PM


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Ah okay, confirms the suspicion I had. My main question to other graders out there though is what do you do with those? Give them the same weight as spine creasing? I think obviously not, but a perfect book with a minor bindery scratch like that, would it still be a 9.4?

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Posted 7/4/2009 6:41:23 PM


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Unfortunately a CGC grade may not see those as printing defects. Spine ticks are spine ticks, and colour breaking ones will always hit a grade - they're one of CGCs pet hates.

Depending on how many there are the book could still pull a 9.4 though.

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Posted 7/5/2009 4:47:18 PM


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Your not alone i've been seeing these alot on my moderns and it has been making it difficult to pick out a good comic in my LCS

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