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I agree Robbie.
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Robbie (5/4/2009)
I think the DVD sales will be solid. It was an "R" rated movie. That might be why not many kids saw it opening weekend?  Hit it on the head. I didn't take that into account when I predicted it doing so well. I don't think any of the performances were 'wooden', thought everyone did a pretty good job. DVD sales will justify this movie though, so not all is lost. Take a look at movies from Marvel, they're all rated PG or PG-13... a huge amount of movie-goers go to see those, and those movies aren't quite as good as The Watchmen or V For Vendetta (which is an excellent movie if I might say so).
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oxbladder (5/4/2009)
No he missed a few digits. Watchmen made $25.1 million in the first weekend. It has slowed considerably but still has earned $107,179,392 to date. When considering the budget it has not performed well but that is more the fault of the movie makers than Moore's writing. Our original poster also hasn't even really considered that Watchmen is a 20 year old story now so it's impact is not as great as it was back in the 80's.
Despite Moore's rather crap attitude he has made significant contributions to the industry. Besides it is not like other writers out there aren't "over rated" as well because their styles don't quite fit a reader's ideals. There are also plenty other writers that have bitter attitudes.Still, that is low.
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Ringfinger (5/5/2009)
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Still, that is low.
Sure but that is more a comment on the film, how it was adapted, and it's rating than a reflection on Allan Moore. It's not like Watchmen had any unique filming components to it like say Sin City which was a comic book movie rated R that did well. This movie targeted a small portion of the movie going population ... namely old comic geeks and whoever they brought along. The few of the general public can identify with the Watchmen brand no matter how many ads you throw on TV.
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Robbie (5/4/2009)
I think the DVD sales will be solid. It was an "R" rated movie. That might be why not many kids saw it opening weekend? Watchmen also was never a Saturday morning cartoon, a video game (to my knowledge), on TV and probably had a paucity of people seeing the ads thinking 'I know that comic. I used to read that one when I was a kid.' I think the overall potential marketing pool was quite small compared to other comic movies. The 'R' rating certainly would not help either. A winter release usually results in smaller returns. Also, the lack of a Nu Metal soundtrack etc. Could probably come up with a ton of reasons (some of which may or may not be valid).
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For R rated comicbook movie flops, I nominate Man-thing.
That was a dreadful thing to watch.
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| Watchmen was a flop... That's not Alan Moore's fault though. It never should of been made a film. But regardless, all the fanboys said it was going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, and it bombed. 100 mill aint bad, but it was WATCHMEN, the holy grail of comics. It should of done a trillion, but like all of Alan Moores books, they should stay books and not movies, and they all bomb.
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The Fuj (5/6/2009)
Watchmen was a flop...
That's not Alan Moore's fault though.
It never should of been made a film.
But regardless, all the fanboys said it was going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, and it bombed.
100 mill aint bad, but it was WATCHMEN, the holy grail of comics.
It should of done a trillion, but like all of Alan Moores books, they should stay books and not movies, and they all bomb.
If it doesn't make the 150 mil back then it is a flop
Why shouldn't it have been made a film?
Fanboys say everything is going to be great.
Why would a non mainstream comic story with no immediately recognizable characters except to comic fanboys make a trillion dollars? IMO the filmakers went way over board, the promotion machine went way overboard, and the money spent was way too much for a product that maybe two or three million people worldwide might know.
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| So... are we agreeing... or what? Im saying by fanboys accounts, it should of made a trillion dollars. But it didnt. None of Alan Moore's books do well, because they are so hard to translate. If he would of wanted to make a movie, he'd write a script. He is an author of comics. But also that it "bombed" by todays standards, the fanboys are apologizing, now saying that it wasnt "for everyone". It was an "R" rated movie... So what? A good movie, is a good movie, is a good movie. (not just you guys at CPG, this is coming from a couple more sites.) Kids couldnt see it.. but who is paying the tickets? Parents. If it was so good, then more adults would of saw it. The original poster has an opinion, and while he has his right to it. Its a stretch to say that Alan Moore sucks because the Watchmen movie was bad. Yes he wrote Watchmen, and yes the movie was close to the book, but it wasnt Alan Moore's Watchmen. It was Synder's adaptation of Moore's Watchmen. I think the Watchmen book is great... awesome even. The movie... meh... too short for me to totally capture everything. It should be 2 parts, maybe three to fully establish the characters and explain everything going on.
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The Fuj (5/6/2009)
So... are we agreeing... or what?
Im saying by fanboys accounts, it should of made a trillion dollars.
But it didnt. None of Alan Moore's books do well, because they are so hard to translate. If he would of wanted to make a movie, he'd write a script. He is an author of comics.
But also that it "bombed" by todays standards, the fanboys are apologizing, now saying that it wasnt "for everyone". It was an "R" rated movie... So what? A good movie, is a good movie, is a good movie.
(not just you guys at CPG, this is coming froma couple moresites.)
Kids couldnt see it.. but who is paying the tickets?
Parents.
If it was so good, then more adults would of saw it.
The original poster has an opinion, and while he has his right to it. Its a stretch to say that Alan Moore sucks because the Watchmen movie was bad.
Yes he wrote Watchmen, and yes the movie was close to the book, but it wasnt Alan Moore's Watchmen. It was Synder's adaptation of Moore's Watchmen.
I think the Watchmen book is great... awesome even.
The movie... meh... too short for me to totally capture everything. It should be 2 parts, maybe three to fully establish the characters and explain everything going on.
Somewhat agreeing I guess. I wouldn't say that it bombed or flopped. It is not too far off from break even and when it is no longer in theatres it should be even closer to break even and DVD sales should put it over the top.
I am not apologizing for it's showing at the box office but to say that R ratings don't play in is not entirely true especially when you go on a wild promo campaign trying to push a movie to a wide audience. You are limiting your audience a great deal when you get an R rating. Yes "parents" would go to a good R movie but because they may have not seen this one doesn't mean that it is a bad movie either. The movie had no star power and it contained not one single character that they were even aware of before the promotion machine started rolling and it was a genre of movie that most adults/parents generally stay away from if they are going to a movie on their own.
Now when you have no star power, an R rating, and a action movie with no recognizable or nostalgic characters what would you expect? IMO if you are going to do a big budget movie like that you are nuts ... especially when it is bringing nothing to the table in the way of filming like Sin City, for example. Sin City is one that should have flopped too but throw in a few recognizable faces and some unique filming and you get a success with an R rating.
I didn't think the movie was bad and I didn't think it was great either and I personally wouldn't say it was a bomb or flop. It was fairly well received and reviewed outside the community. In the end the blame of the final numbers rests solely on Snyder's shoulders.
One final word. IMO any material is worthy of being made into a film a good director will make it work. Hell, Kubrick made A Clockwork Orange work and that was one hell of a tough source to translate.
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