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I too think it's ridiculous to pay big bucks for super high grade crappy comics that have been CGC'd. So I don't do it. But if other folk get into it, who cares? Let them throw their money away on the Maxx #1, that less loot out there to be used in outbidding be on Aquaman #1.
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Deathlok2001 (4/8/2009)
The Maxx? from the early 1990s? GIVE ME A FREAKIN BREAK! ITS CRAP! ITS A 25 CENT BOOK IS WHAT IT IS. OVERSTREET SHOULD NOT EVEN LIST IT. THERE ARE 1000S OF THIS BOOK FLOATING AROUND. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK FOR IT!
THE ONLY BOOKS you should be cgcing is early 1970s & older. thats it.Seriously? Really? That's what you gained from Buffyfan's post? I think you should stop saying things of unbelievable idiocy. Not to mention all the other unfounded and just plain wrong info you posted in that comment.
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Boboset (4/8/2009)
Deathlok2001 (4/8/2009)
The Maxx? from the early 1990s? GIVE ME A FREAKIN BREAK! ITS CRAP! ITS A 25 CENT BOOK IS WHAT IT IS. OVERSTREET SHOULD NOT EVEN LIST IT. THERE ARE 1000S OF THIS BOOK FLOATING AROUND. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK FOR IT!
THE ONLY BOOKS you should be cgcing is early 1970s & older. thats it.Seriously? Really? That's what you gained from Buffyfan's post? I think you should stop saying things of unbelievable idiocy. Not to mention all the other unfounded and just plain wrong info you posted in that comment. What an idiot.
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Mr. Overstreet has been doing this for almost 40 years, so compared to him CGC is a fad. Overstreet never listed above 9.2 because it was impossible to distinguish a higher grade with the limited skills of the social collector. Dealers on the other hand, the so-called experts would never admit to any comic they sold being less than NM, so the overall grading system was merely to prove that somewhere these copies existed, although neither a buyer nor seller could agree. Enter CGC and numerical numbering of assigned grades. Suddenly those NM's fell into multiple categories and pricing was based on bias, imagine that. Selling a comic based on a selected price based on the opinion of someone, absurd! Never has it happened before in the hobby. Please!
Buying and selling was subjective before, now it is adjectively selective because there is someone out there assigning numbers and saying only they can tell the minute differences between .2 grades. People buy into it because they want security of investment or profitability of assets, and no one overwatches the graders. No set rules exist for grading, and the official authority on grading has no list of criteria.
You want to make sense of it all? Buy CGC and publish a criteria list, elsewhys, give up complaining and vote with your money, either for or against.
Where does he get those wonderful toys!
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The fact that this has made two pages is silly. Who cares what people slab and what people pay for those slabbed books? There are no rules what can be slabbed or what should be paid for those books. Slabbing was NEVER meant just for historically significant books ... NEVER.
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The Joker (4/8/2009)
Mr. Overstreet has been doing this for almost 40 years, so compared to him CGC is a fad. Overstreet never listed above 9.2 because it was impossible to distinguish a higher grade with the limited skills of the social collector. Dealers on the other hand, the so-called experts would never admit to any comic they sold being less than NM, so the overall grading system was merely to prove that somewhere these copies existed, although neither a buyer nor seller could agree. Enter CGC and numerical numbering of assigned grades. Suddenly those NM's fell into multiple categories and pricing was based on bias, imagine that. Selling a comic based on a selected price based on the opinion of someone, absurd! Never has it happened before in the hobby. Please!
Buying and selling was subjective before, now it is adjectively selective because there is someone out there assigning numbers and saying only they can tell the minute differences between .2 grades. People buy into it because they want security of investment or profitability of assets, and no one overwatches the graders. No set rules exist for grading, and the official authority on grading has no list of criteria.
You want to make sense of it all? Buy CGC and publish a criteria list, elsewhys, give up complaining and vote with your money, either for or against.
Actually Bob's grading scale has always been and will always be a collaboration. His name might be on it but he got input from many folks over the years. The top OSPG price got topped at NM long before numeric scales came in but that is not because Overstreet and those whom inputted into his grading scale and guides didn't think they existed it was just that the most common high grade was a NM. Mint or Pristine Mint were nearly impossible to find because the grading criteria used to also consider printing defects and VERY FEW books ever come off the line without defects of some sort. So considering this mint or better was a true rarity and thus any book that fell into this category also fell well outside the common price range.
Over the years and with the advent of CGC much of this has been reconsidered and now there are more books that fall into the higher grades, beyond NM that is. Much of the comic community accepts many of these changes but at the same time they still will argue over what is and isn't 9.8 and better because the margins are much much smaller and they cannot see how they can consistently be met. By that I mean that what grades as a 9.8 one day may be a 9.9 the next and vise versa. However, when it comes down to it few would argue that such books are in better shape than most 9.6's and definitely nicer than 9.4's. 9.4 and 9.6 though are also not incredibly common in the grand scale of things either so they will fetch better prices for the most part.
The grading scale has NEVER been perfect no matter whether you go by CGC or OSGG so there is no reason to get in a big tizzy about them. As for the prices paid for books ... people will always pay more for the highest graded books and yes those prices will be crazy to most of us but we should care little since it is up to those people how much they want to pay. Every single one of us has or will pay well over guide at some point for a book or books we want and all that matters is that the person who is spending the money is comfortable with spending that money. If it ain't your cash then why care?
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Buffyfan (4/8/2009)
Boboset (4/8/2009)
Deathlok2001 (4/8/2009)
The Maxx? from the early 1990s? GIVE ME A FREAKIN BREAK! ITS CRAP! ITS A 25 CENT BOOK IS WHAT IT IS. OVERSTREET SHOULD NOT EVEN LIST IT. THERE ARE 1000S OF THIS BOOK FLOATING AROUND. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK FOR IT!
THE ONLY BOOKS you should be cgcing is early 1970s & older. thats it.Seriously? Really? That's what you gained from Buffyfan's post? I think you should stop saying things of unbelievable idiocy. Not to mention all the other unfounded and just plain wrong info you posted in that comment. What an idiot. Again, we agree. Too funny. Buffy you need to stop using your handheld and type out the whole word 'maximum' instead of shorthand.
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I will say it again! Slabbing books like teh Maxx is stupidity!
25 cent book. pure crap!
SO you can pull out a book from the early to mid 1990s that everyone & his dog can get for 25 cents, OH BOY! What a beauty! LMFAO
W@W! Image crap is like the Pro set line of sports cards, over produced, trying really hard to "manufacture" a collectible flash in the pan crap.
The Maxx is fit for a 12 year old to read while taking a dump, thats about it!
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What's this obsession with the Maxx? You're the one that brought it up. A little reading comprehension goes a long way.
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Thankfully you don't set the rules on what gets slabbed and there are collectors that are all the happier for it.
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