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MasterCPU (3/18/2009)
Ok 1st let me state my intentions.  I didn't state it before because I didn't think anyone cared but I see you all do so here we go. My goal is to become a professional restorer.  The definition of a professional restorer Supposidly is someone using the proper materials which I do. The best grade on restore is for it to be as little detectable which is why I try real hard to make it un noticable. If I sell these comics which wouldn't be any time soon I would definatly disclose not only it is restored but exactly what's done to it. I have always believed honestly is the best policy and customer satisfaction paramount.  I understand that I depreciated that FF 74 but I need to practice on something and it was cheap.  Do work son. VERY impressive work on that second FF, the first one not so much. But the second, thats incredible! I think restoration is great if disclosed at sales and is also something of an artform IMO. Understand that before this thread seemed to many as "this is how I'm going to cheat and decieve comic buyers'. That's not so as you stated and I'm very interested to watch your progress here. Keep us updated!
On the second FF, how long did that take you, and did you replace the page pieces that were missing as a result of the 'bullet hole'?
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It took my about 2 hours to do. What I did was found another ff 43 with 1/3 of the bottom front and back cover missing but with really good pages with no rust for 99 c. Then I did a mariage . I removed staples from both comics then I cut out to cover pieces I needed and glued those on then swaped out the pages and finally some color touch. The only way you can tell for sure I glued cover pieces is by running your finger over it because the pattern I cut follows black lines most of the way. I checked to see what a restered (RCGC) value would be at a 6.0 is $22.00 with cureent market being 50% so 11.00 and I spend 2.48 so not bad. I am also willing to offer my services for free if anyone has some poor stuff the want fixed.
 My Mission : To become a respected professional paper conservator/restorer 
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| wow! Nice job. How did an issue of FF get a bullet hole in it? lol did you shoot one in it? or just come across it and try to fix it?
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I dont think the market is close to 50% on amat. resto CPU. I think it's significanly lower than that. But they look nice!
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The problem as I see it is that the restoration you are doing is purely cosmetic so far and does not take into account the deeper aspects of restoration such as interior work and pieces adding. From the views provided for the first FF, looking inside the book immediately screams resto and amateur at that because most people believe the majority of the value of a book is the cover while collector's know that most of the comic is inside where it counts.
Where does he get those wonderful toys!
I have yet begun to surrender.
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| I found this on ebay. Its a restored FF 27 that went for more money than I would have paid for it so I think its a good example that restored books arn't so worthless This guy has more restored for sale and I recommend you all watch those actions to see what they bring in. I'm sure this post will get a few peeps fired up. hehe http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=110365380401
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[quote]MasterCPU (3/22/2009)
I found this on ebay. Its a restored FF 27 that went for more money than I would have paid for it so I think its a good example that restored books arn't so worthless This guy has more restored for sale and I recommend you all watch those actions to see what they bring in. I'm sure this post will get a few peeps fired up. hehe http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=110365380401[/quote]  Sucker! Wow, that's a completly stupid price on that FF#27. I bought my unrestored and graded 4.5 for half that! I think this is the exception to the rule here, although I'm curious if you can prove me wrong... Still no one can agrue that the winner bidder is'nt being bent over on that buy.
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This is his second batch and I'm tellin ya they went for more than I thought they would too 
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If you want to be a paper conservator then get the proper education. Right now you have no clue what the "proper" materials are. Until you actually get some proper training at a accredited facility you will be permanently damaging whatever book you work on.
The FF restoration will be caught quite easily by CGC and experienced collectors. It is really easy to catch when someone has coloured a scarred part of a book.
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oxbladder (3/24/2009)
If you want to be a paper conservator then get the proper education. Right now you have no clue what the "proper" materials are. Until you actually get some proper training at a accredited facility you will be permanently damaging whatever book you work on.
The FF restoration will be caught quite easily by CGC and experienced collectors. It is really easy to catch when someone has coloured a scarred part of a book.He is right, that is something you need to go to school for and get a proper degree before you're taken seriously. Also, it's possible (I assume) to shadow a profressional for some time and essentially work as an apprentiece before you can work that field. I'm just throwing ideas out there, but it is'nt a profession where you can just pick it up on your own and make it. Sure, you could make a few bucks on ebay doing it the way your are now, but prepare for some negs, returns, and the possible boot. I purchased some restored keys before I knew much about the impact of restoration much like the people who are picking up these restored books on ebay and I'm still pissed about to this day. I did'nt know what i was doing, much like these individuals probally don't. If you try to make money on the amateur side of resto prepare to rub people the wrong way. Not to mention a good majority of the people who buy these books will most likely look back upon these transaction as being some of the worst they've had collecting books. If you're keeping the books forever and ever there's no worries, but if you're selling them are you prepared for all this?
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