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Posted 3/13/2009 5:14:30 AM


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http://www.newsarama.com/comics/030910-Batman-Quitely.html

That's a great news, if it's half good All Star Superman was, it will rock.....I like Morrison style, but I LOVE Quitely art, he's one of my fav 3 artist. I was considering buy a OA from All Star Superman, but now I'll waith for this to be available.

I only hope DC dont relaunch Batman title starting with a new issue 1, it should be a new ongoing series, and we can say bye bye to All Star Batman & Robin....

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Posted 3/13/2009 6:26:03 AM


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You have obviously read AS Batman and Robin then.

How will this be any better? Morrison is hit and miss at the best of times with miss being the side of the coin that comes up more often. This is nothing to get excited about.

When will people learn?







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Posted 3/13/2009 7:40:07 AM


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You have obviously read AS Batman and Robin then.

How will this be any better? Morrison is hit and miss at the best of times with miss being the side of the coin that comes up more often. This is nothing to get excited about.

When will people learn?

You are a hater, no, a super hater.  Morrison and the Quit teaming up is sure fire gold, prove me wrong I F'ing dare you son!

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Posted 3/13/2009 8:12:16 AM


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I am not a hater. I have enjoyed a lot of his early stuff but he has lost it recently. I will admit that I am not a big fan of Quitely. His style is all lumps and bumps and he makes people look tumorous but even then there are things they have done that I liked such as JLA: Earth 2 and Morrison's run on JLA but even that was merely good and not great.

I haven't read much by Morrison since the first half of his run on New X-men that were any good. I think there was a one-shot issue half way through his Batman run that was good. Other than that there has not been a lot that hasn't just been convoluted nonsense. Final Crisis, Seven Soldiers, Seaguy, the Filth, the latter parts of New X-men, the majority of his Batman run; all range from average to awful. His problem when he writes for Marvel and DC is that he tries so hard for the over the top but rooted in deep, obscure continuity/history duality and tries to change things totally so that they fit what he wants rather than actually expanding the ideas in a natural, logical progression. If editors were willing to reign him in, it could be amazing but they let him get away with his 'I'm Grant Morrison. I do what I want' mentality.

I am not singling him out for this, there are far too many writers that believe their own hype and their employers let them get away with it because they get to put a big star name on the top of their books.

Frank Miller is another one that gets away with this far too much. He breaks out his chunky marker pens, scribbles a bit and giggles to himself about being the 'goddamned Batman' and people eat it up because it is Frank Miller. Sure he has done some good stuff, even some great stuff but he has done a lot of stinky old poop.

Then there is Jeph Loeb. Why does this guy have a job? He hasn't got an original idea in his head but because he is a media darling people will eat up his recycled garbage whenever they can lay their grubby little mitts on it.

Tim Sale. Widely regarded as one of the greatest Batman artists because of his stuff on Dark Victory and Long Halloween but he can't draw Batman.

Clayton Crain. Loved by many because of his Ghost Rider stuff and the X-force stuff he is doing but his stuff is too dark. Not in terms of tone or material but just dark. Lack of light. X-force may as well be black pages with speech bubbles.

Finch and Quesada. Both have similar styles that are too deep in shadow.

Like I said, it isn't just Morrison, there are far too many people in the business that need a slap .

Hopefully, in ten years time we will be able to laugh at the stuff that was being sold en mass the same way we laugh at Rob Liefeld now.







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Posted 3/24/2009 11:25:29 PM


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Why is having an opinion brand someone as being a hater?

I have never read anything by Morrison that I have thought was better than average - he alone caused me to stop collecting Batman after a long long run.

I avoid Morrison like the plague - call me a hater all you want - I call it personal taste. I cannot understand why people think his crap smells so much better than everyone else. I cannot understand why Didio and DC continue to allow big headed 'talent' ruin the entire DC Universe.

Just my 2 cents - I am with you on your entire list Sonic. Throw in Winick (crude sex reference a month with WB sitcom dialogue) and you have a complete list. It is funny that the Bat Universe is being handled by Morrison and Winick, the two people that pushed me away. But - I am just one dude, and if people buy the books, then they will keep letting them write them - capitalism people - give the people what they want - but not my cup-o-tea.

JT



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Posted 7/5/2009 6:35:52 AM


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I'd agree about Morrison, and I wasn't too fond of Winnick until Batman #687 -this was an awesome issue and I'd highly recommend you pick it up if you haven't already. It brings some class back to the Bat title after Morrison's mess.

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