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What made you think any of this had to do with quality of story or art???  It's always been a matter of supply, demand, and imaginary value... ...or hype. Comics are monetarily "worth" their weight in scrap paper...if you can get more than that for them, more power to ya! If you set any kind of value on them other than the pleasure they give you...you're setting yourself up for a "financial meltdown"... That depressing thought said...I think I'll go re-read a Dell Tarzan...that Jesse Marsh art was soooo cool....
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| I love this series got mine at 1/2 price nuff said..........so for me to see thoses $$$ paid for that series... Jesse James
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Slab it and stick a high grade on it and people will often trip over themselves to empty their wallet on to your lap. They have been programmed to believe that all high grade books are rare and exceedingly valuable. Funny thing is is take it out of the slab and God himself couldn't pass it off as that high grade nor would they even think of dumping more than $10 on it.
Unfortunately I have had to dole out lots of cash once in awhile to beat out some of these people to get books I want that happen to be slabbed.
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I agree the Champions were always a fun read and they combined so many characters together from different groups and had someone in it that most anyone could like. I read Defenders for the same reason =) Great mixture of Characters. I can understand also why they should be higher priced as they were not producing 10 billion copies back then and many of them would not be in VERY GOOD condition by nowand as was said people are going back now and picking up the books they read as a child. For me it was like a more light hearted read then the X-Men but had angel and iceman and hmm i think maybe the beast appeared in it once in awhile and I also read Ghost Rider too soo he was in there to boot. Herc was always a light hearted character also always ready for a good fight  It is the same reason I enjoyed the Original Squadron Supreme before they went ALL POLITCAL and FULL of SHITT(like many comic fans and writers unfortunetly) . Contest of Champions was cool and then came Secret Wars where many different characters interacted all in one book and for just a litte $$ at the time. Simpler times and you could buy 20 or 30 books and it wouldn't cost you a fortune as it does now. The artwork really sucks *** for the most part too,yeah some nice artists here and there but it is hard even looking at many of the books let alone reading them! haha its 330 am and I am ranting and half asleep but oh well Champions FTW!!!! Dude relax they were a far better book then you gave it credit for and much better then ROM or Micronauts or whatever else it was you said which came out way later BTW
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| The other thing to keep in mind is that really high grade copies of most Bronze Age books are rarer than you would think... 90% of the vast overruns ended up in bins in comic shops all over the world...and because they were thought of as so much drek...they weren't handled with the best of care...so while they may be thousands of 9.0 and 9.2s...they are far fewer copies in 9.6, 9.8, or 10...at least, because of their low value, very few have been graded and cataloged... The irony is, that they are still recent enough, that some poor shop could still have a case of 50 sitting in the back room. When they get spendy enough...they'll come out of the wood work.
Look at the CGC census of Amazing Spider-man #1 through the link on our pages...
Do you think there would have been over 1000 copies graded if it wasn't worth what it's worth???
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Shadow (4/20/2009)
The irony is, that they are still recent enough, that some poor shop could still have a case of 50 sitting in the back room. When they get spendy enough...they'll come out of the wood work.
Look at the CGC census of Amazing Spider-man #1 through the link on our pages...
Do you think there would have been over 1000 copies graded if it wasn't worth what it's worth???
ASM is a key issue and ASM is one of the most popular books so yes I would expect many to end out being graded. The fact that people pay extra helps but the fact it is a key book had/has a much larger effect.
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| My guess is that, because it was not a particularly "POPULAR" title that there are not MANY 10.0 condition copies out there. Take Marvel's "NIGHT NURSE" for example. In it's day! ...NOT very collected, Hence not many SAVED in MINT 10.0 condition... NOW the only 4 issues made are valued quite high in HIGH grade. Maybe the same can be said for the "Champions" series. Only 17 issues. (Can you name how many MARVEL series never lasted more than 20 issues??? BTW: There are quite a few!!!) It did not last very long, plus HOW MANY Die-Hard collectors "BACK IN THE DAY" really saved the title for investment purposes??? -FBTA
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| Let me take this thread in another direction... Why is X-Factor (vol.1) rated so low? #1 is $5, and 99% of the issues are $3.00!? I know it came out in the mid-80's but still, we're talking about the second big Marvel mutie comic after Uncanny X-Men. And there is some age to the series, almost 25 years. The stories were better than most of the crap you get today and the art was better! Same with The New Mutants, which is worse really, they go for $2.00 a piece at best (except #98 and one other issue which is like $10.00 and I have no idea why). Even #1 is $2.00! And this series is older than X-Factor!! And why is the Special #1, part 3 of 'The Asgardian Wars', only $2.50?!? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! Awesome story, awesome artwork... no love. I recently bought some issues of The Champions, and even though I've read only the last two issues I can say that I'm confident it doesn't hold a candle to X-Factor or The New Mutants. Which means that about the only thing The Champions has on them is age. You really want to know what the deal is, Deathlok? People like what they like, do what they do, when they want, how they want... and none of it makes sense. Zip. Zero. Nadda. None. You just gotta role with it... -Tom
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Slab it and stick a high grade on it and people will often trip over themselves to empty their wallet on to your lap. They have been programmed to believe that all high grade books are rare and exceedingly valuable. Funny thing is is take it out of the slab and God himself couldn't pass it off as that high grade nor would they even think of dumping more than $10 on it.
Unfortunately I have had to dole out lots of cash once in awhile to beat out some of these people to get books I want that happen to be slabbed.That makes you one of those "people".
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I think this is a phase. People are speculating that graded comics are going to be worth money, otherwise, no sense in spending so much for a 10.0. If it's that important, find a 9.8 and submit it until it gets a 10.0 grade. No difference between a 9.8 and a 10.0. Neither allow for any flaws on the comic.
I also disagree with a graded book possibly being a 10.0. How can a comic whose spine has been cracked be GEM Mint. My ungraded books that are unread would have a better spine and thus have a higher chance of being GEM Mint than a book that has been handled. Part of what I consider when grading my books is whether the Spine is Virgin or Tight. No matter what you do to a book, once the spine is cracked, it's cracked. Same with a girl. There is no such thing as a "Born again Virgin".
The GEM Mint grade should be taken out completely because there is no way that any book that is handled, even properly can possibly be Gem Mint or they should give it a Purple Label or whatever and have it Qualified 10.0 and in the notes add that the spine was cracked in order for the book to be graded. What do they do with trades? Do they just grade the cover and the outer portion of the pages? Do they not deduct for scuffing on a cover? Even sliding it in a plastic will scuff the cover to some extent.
Another thing, I noticed that some of my books have ink that transferred to adjacent pages within the book. Would having the book enclosed in its CGC slab make it more prone to this? I can't figure out what did it to my books. If the micro chamber paper is used to prevent this, then there may be a problem with CGC books in the future because with me this has only happened on interior pages and not on the cover and first page.
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