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To any/all of you who thought that Batman R.I.P. started well, middled well, and/or ended well, please explain!
I had the last few issues backed up in my pile, and read through them the other day. Blech, that series was really lame. Much of it was less readable than Final Crisis the first time through.
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Speedy-D (1/9/2009)
To any/all of you who thought that Batman R.I.P. started well, middled well, and/or ended well, please explain!
I had the last few issues backed up in my pile, and read through them the other day. Blech, that series was really lame. Much of it was less readable than Final Crisis the first time through.Never got to read it before I dropped my moderns.
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You had to have been a follower of Morrisons whole run of Batman from the start up until R.I.P. to really catch on to stuff and see where he was headed with it. thats when it all started making sense...
If you didn't, then yeah..I can see how confusing it could have been. The ending sucked, too, with it also being confusing even for followers....but the last couple issues pretty much cleared it up in Last rites and made it make sense....
But yeah, it wasn't that good. Although i've enjoy most of the last Rites stuff thats followed it..
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O, I've read every Morrison issue. I could follow R.I.P., it just sucked. It was poorly written, jarring to read, and completely unintense, which I think is what he was going for. The basic premise, how does Batman handle a psychological attack that he can't handle, is kinda cool, but man was it poorly worked.
I only wish I could let Grant Morrison know that I'm happily adding Batman to my list of comics I no longer buy because of him.
As an interesting aside, I've been reading this thing called something like Alan Moore on How To Write Comics. It's really good, much less annoying than I'd feared. Anyway, he points out tons of pitfalls to avoid, many of which made me think of R.I.P. He spent a decent amount of time talking about handling transitions from one scene to another, and I was like, "Grant Morrison needs to read this!"
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| I have been commenting on Morrison a lot lately. And candidly, I think using Morrison for Final Crisis and Batman was a mistake. I have said before, that most writers use a linear approach to story telling. One event followed by another followed by another. Then there is Morrison who takes a Pulp Fiction approach to story telling where you need other and future pieces for all of it to make sense. Will it make sense? Yeah it will and I admit, there is a cleverness about this...but candidly, I prefer in your face story telling to abstractions. The problem is, what works for a movie doesn't always work for comics. A movie is 2 hours to 3 hours. A comic comes out once a month and then you move on(and maybe read other comics) Sorry, but I dont remember all the details of a book from 2 years ago amidst the 30-50 other comics I may read monthly. And that is the problem. The details become forgotten and without the glue to hold this together, it becomes disjointed story telling. As ridiculous as this is, I actually found myself going to Wikipedia just to make sure I understood what was actually going on.
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Dude, I agree with you 100%. But sometimes I feel like this line of thinking gives the Grant Morrisons of the world too much credit. The term non-linear has a certain intellectual cache associated with it, and I just don't feel like this deserves it. Non-linear doesn't mean confusing. And the bottom line with a "non-linear" movie or comic is that if I'm not digging it, then something's wrong. I spent all of Pulp Fiction wishing it were over so that I could watch it again, it was nothing but good times as far as I'm concerned. And there are David Lynch movies out there that I still don't get, but enjoy watching time after time.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't turn to comic books for my intellectual fix. I get that elsewhere. I want fun stuff, sometimes intense stuff, and if it's smart that's just great gravy, but it dang well better be entertaining or it's a flop in my book.
O, and I'm psyched to hear that I'm not the only one who can't remember every detail of every comic I've read in the past 4 years. DC would do very very well to keep that in mind more often. I miss Julie Schwartz's little captions telling which issue to refer to if I don't get what's going on. 
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Speedy-D (1/10/2009)
Maybe it's just me, but I don't turn to comic books for my intellectual fix. I get that elsewhere. I want fun stuff, sometimes intense stuff, and if it's smart that's just great gravy, but it dang well better be entertaining or it's a flop in my book.
O, and I'm psyched to hear that I'm not the only one who can't remember every detail of every comic I've read in the past 4 years. DC would do very very well to keep that in mind more often. I miss Julie Schwartz's little captions telling which issue to refer to if I don't get what's going on.
HIGH FIVE! AGREED AGREED! And I miss the captions as well.
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