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Recently I purchased a collection of magazines/comics that included the following: Playboy's Little Annie Fanny (both the large white covered edition from 1966 and the smaller green covered edition from 1972), Penthouse's Oh Wicked Wanda collection (1975), Hustler's Honey Hooker collection from 1977, and a collection of The Best Of Hustler's Dwaine Tinsley (1979). Now technically these obviously aren't UG but since Wally Wood's Gang Bang has been discussed on this board in the past, and these titles and their ilk are probably closer in format and content to it, would this be the proper forum to discuss these kinds of titles and their scarcity, or lack of scarcity; their importance to alternative types of comic literature; the beauty of the artwork or lack of taste in the content; etc. I think these types of comics are mostly overlooked, and I would add various titles from National Lampoon to this mix as well. Any thoughts from the UG gang on this type of material??
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I've always considered shag mag cartoons to be a form of underground. Above ground publishers with belowground roots.
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"Shag mag?" Don't know that term, but if I understand "shag" then wouldn't UG like Cherry, Jiz, Felch, Snatch, etc. also fall into that category?
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i think these "shag mag TPBs" are perfectly suited to discussion on these boards!
though, admittedly, i do not collect them and know very little about them.
i would imagine come of the collections could be pretty difficult to come by?
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| "Shag" from Austin Powers/ British slang "mag" for magazine= f#ck book. National Lampoon was loaded with good UG artists- and Playboy utilized them also.
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Well most Ug fans dig Little Annie Fanny. After all it's Kurtzman and Elder!
While the 1st and 2nd editions go for not too much of a difference in price the 1st is touch to find in high grade, due to its odd size. Probably should go for more. The Oh Wicked Wanda was only printed once (I believe). Loved reading it in Penthouse as a kid!
Don't know anything about the Hustler ones. 
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Yeah, I got what "Shag Mag" means, I'd just never heard the term...F%ck books was the vernacular me mates and I always used...either that or "Stroke Lit". Jim1968, apparently Hustler wanted to have it's own LAF and OWW so it created "Honey Hooker". Same format as the other 2 and like everything else in Hustler...more "pink". Tinsley's claim to fame was the continuing "Chester The Molester - later Chester and Hester" - single panel strip, but most of his cartoons were like S. Gross but taken to perhaps the next level of poor taste.
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There were a core of artists associated with Kurtzman's more ground breaking projects...Like Humbug and Help. And these were the guys whose work I saved and collected, no matter what type of publication it appeared in. Hank Hinton did an Annie Fanny type strip in Cavalier in '65 or '66 called Charlie Charisma. Gilliam appeared in Cavalier back then as well. Hinton also did lots of stuff for Cycle-Toons, which was edited by HELP mag alumni Dennis Elefson.
So content-wise, most of the undergrounds aren't as interesting as some of the stuff that ran in the men's mags of the era....and vice versa. I don't think it's a question of where the work appeared so much as it is a question of how good the work was. Hank Hinton would have become a great underground cartoonist...but instead, he got a high paying gig doing cartoons for the L.A. Times...and didn't have the time to mess with the new, speculative underground comix back then. But regardless of that...He is still one of the best cartoonists. And that Charlie Charisma stuff was incredible satire, even though it ran in a traditional men's mag of the era instead of a cutting-edge outlaw publication.
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Jay, were any of these guys collected or is it basically a hunt for the original magazines to see what and who these guys are of who you speak? They are both a bit before my time and I'm totally unaware of their work. Thanks for the heads up and I'll be keeping an eye out for those titles. I work one day a week at a place where paper pretty much goes to die, and while digging around in the literally millions of books, mags etc. I keep finding gems I've never seen or heard of before. Now you've given me a bit of a target.
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