bobafettesb (7/15/2008)

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KingOfRulers (7/15/2008)

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bobafettesb (7/15/2008)

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Remote_kill (7/15/2008)

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graded books ruined the industry.

I agree with you on that. It has put so many key issues and high-grade copies of certain runs out of reach for many collectors in the business. It used to be so easy to find high-grade copies of The Amazing Spider-Man and The Uncanny X-Men at affordable prices. Now one needs to be willing to drop hundreds of $$$s on a single issue.

And on the topic..........I wouldn't give that copy of Flash #130 any higher than a 5.0. Did PGX grade it at a 10?

IT'S A 10! A FUC*ING 10!!!!

So because YOU can't afford the books you want, that means that graded books ruined the industry? This isn't a big commune. Sellers want to maximize revenue.

Woah! Woah! Woah!
Who said anything about me not being able to afford higher-grade issues?
What about people that are newer to the industry that would like to purchase some nicer looking copies besides the ones that grandma had lining her cabinet drawers?

I didn't say anything about not being able to afford higher grade issues. I said that just because certain books are going for more than you want to pay does not mean graded books ruined the industry. Your inability to purchase the books you want at the price you want says nothing to how graded books have or have not helped the industry.

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Was I mistaken, or is that not what you said in the bolded post?

But just to prove a point, let's see a show of hands from all the people that can afford a CGC 9.8 copy of Uncanny X-Men #1 for around $200,000. Now let's see a show of hands for all of the people that can afford a non-CGC 9.8 copy of the same book. 

And what about all of these subcription-service CGC 9.8 graded books that are coming out? Don't you think that that's going to have an effect on the market? If they're pumping these things out in such high grade as to be able to fulfill a subscription service. It's going to have an adverse effect on the market. There's just going to be thousands of 9.8 graded copies of certain books just floating around.



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How does this relate at all to high grade books? "So because YOU can't afford the books you want, that means that graded books ruined the industry? This isn't a big commune. Sellers want to maximize revenue"

A Detective #27 in VG condition will run you $40,000 or more. Can you afford that? It's not high grade.

Your entire arguement is senseless. It sounds more like petty displeasure over what you can and can't afford. You're relating a CGC 9.8 X-men #1 to a raw copy. Well, what the hell grade is the raw copy?!? A 2.0? 6.0? 9.2? You are trying to relate a 9.8 copy to some open ended copy of some mythical grade which apparantly also costs a few pennies which in turn somehow means that graded books ruined the industry.

Graded books did not ruin the industry. Tell me how graded books have somehow destroyed the industry? Deception? Is CGC extorting dealers? Bribes? Drug mules? If CGC was extorting dealers around the world, that would be a valid arguement to ruining an industry. But you have none of these lol Your arguement on how they ruined the industry is based you on having been priced out on the books you want lol Are personal finances valid reasons to why graded books ruined the industry?

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 i'll admit i started dealing again to make $$$ but deep down i really do love comics

whatever happens in the market that you see might not really be so..eg -watchmen 9.8

for $$$$ how many more people will pay that ? i know for i fact i get watchmen sets for less than $50 just about anywhere.. just because the cgc said they were 9.8 it's now worth $5k

or was it somebody who thought it was a good deal? as long as you got the $$$ no big deal

right? if that person really knew what he/she was doing ...then i don't think that would have happened....i guess that's the plus...

 the minus is leaving grading to the "professionals" ... wow! me and a couple of friends /associates thought about that 15yrs ago...didn't fly you wanna know why..

everyone is biased these are people gradeing these comics..it's still subjective..

good day 9.8 bad day 8.5  ... seems if you want to maximize your price your at their mercy

 ....kind of a monopoly.... pt barum- there's a sucker born every minute- i guess it's changed to second...