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RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

over40artist — Mon, 05 May 2008 03:50:26 GMT

Oooh, that's a good sign. Get the megabuck movie and music industries (and [i]their[/i] litany of lawyers) on Rapidshare's tail and before long Rapidshare will only be sharing their rapid death. I hope that is the case, Jay.

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

jaylynch — Sun, 04 May 2008 12:01:46 GMT

CBLDF is more concerned with first ammendment issues. They have never dealt with disputes between artists and publishers or disputes between publishers and pirates. They primarily are watchdogs on free press, free speech issues. But the music industry and the Movie industry are on Rapidshare's case, I guess.

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

over40artist — Sun, 04 May 2008 02:01:52 GMT

The Berne Convention was not designed to provide enforcement, but to establish international copyright law that could be enforced by local courts.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works[/url]

In other words, a team of lawyers (probably one in each country affected) is probably required to actually make the law effective. Gosh, that really helps artists, musicians and writers who have been victimized but barely earn enough money to pay the rent.

Of course, you could always contact the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund and see if they could help in some way or another.

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

jaylynch — Sat, 03 May 2008 10:13:22 GMT

Last January, Rapidshare lost a lawsuit in the German high court and the decision required them to take down everything and cease operations...in Germany, at least. I imagine they are appealing this...but in the interim, lots of copyright owners are getting screwed.
Also, what's to stop Rapidshare from setting up shop in Switzerland or some other country? Byrne Convention, where are you when we need you? Do they even HAVE an enforcement arm?

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

over40artist — Fri, 02 May 2008 20:06:07 GMT

Ultimately, of course, Rapidshare is responsible for the illegal sales (and even the illegal appearance) of your stuff on their site.

You could threaten to sue. And if you have any attorney friends, they could threaten to sue on your behalf. Sometimes that gets people's attention.

Rapidshare [i]should[/i] be banning any user, anonymous or not, that is illegally uploading files. They can block the user's URL from accessing their services, etc. A good attorney could threaten to shut down their entire web operation, which may be partly legal.

They're based in Europe, though, aren't they? That may pose a problem.

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

jaylynch — Fri, 02 May 2008 15:45:36 GMT

I tried going through Rapidshare. They made the guy take some of my books down...but a month later he put them up again. If I gotta fill out forms every month to keep this stuff off the web, something is wrong with their system. The guy's page is anonymous. Rapidshare is fencing stolen goods.

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

over40artist — Thu, 01 May 2008 21:26:56 GMT

Jay, you could try emailing them and demanding that your stuff is removed. This info comes from their "Imprint" page. [url]http://rapidshare.com/imprint.html[/url]

[font="Arial"][color="000000"][b]Abuse-Management:[/b]

If you believe that your intellectual property rights have been infringed upon by one of our users, please contact us by sending an e-mail to abuse@rapidshare.com.

Please note that we will only process complaints that meet the following requirements:
Please provide us with your name, address and telephone number.
Please describe the copyrighted work that is affected.
Describe the exact location of the infringing file by providing us with the exact RapidShare link (example: http://rapidshare.com/files/123456/example.jpg).
Add the web address under which the link has been published.
If your request applies to more than one RapidShare link please make sure that all links are complete.
Do not send attachments. Include the illegal file links directly in your message.

Please make sure you can receive messages on the e-mail address from which you contact us.

Anonymous or incomplete messages will not be processed. Thank you for your understanding.
[/color][/font]

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

jaylynch — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:40:44 GMT

Here is this other copyright thief who is still at it. http://comix-collection.blogspot.com/2008/04/arcor-doctor-sex.html
In order to get him off the web with his free downloads of material he stole from us, Google (which owns the system that his blog is on) requires an incredible amount of forms for the copyright owner to fill out and mail in. So if anyone has the time, please do this.
I will also do it as well, as soon as I have the time.

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

awillis — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:15:17 GMT

[quote]Back in the old days, cops weren't allowed to deny their status as cops.
So there was a degree of safety in just asking "are you a cop?"
And if they lie, it's entrapment. (entrapment was illeagel then)
Of course the way around that is to send a non-cop in to make the deal.
Then swoop in to make the arrest after money changes hands.

After the Patriot Act, entrapment and lieing to "suspects" is fine and dandy[/quote]

There is an oddity to this situation. As an underground cartoonist, I challenged authority to an extent, but must rely on it to protect my copywrite. Have I become the "man"?:w00t:

Oh, the irony of it all.

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

Comix Junky — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:11:50 GMT

[quote][b]Rick Bradford (4/27/2008)[/b][hr]

... If they can walk into a comic shop, pay for an "illegal" comic and then turn around and arrest the clerk for selling it to them then I'm pretty sure they can stroll into a website without it affecting their authority.[/quote]

Back in the old days, cops weren't allowed to deny their status as cops.
So there was a degree of safety in just asking "are you a cop?"
And if they lie, it's entrapment. (entrapment was illeagel then)
Of course the way around that is to send a non-cop in to make the deal.
Then swoop in to make the arrest after money changes hands.

After the Patriot Act, entrapment and lieing to "suspects" is fine and dandy.

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

Rick Bradford — Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:29:57 GMT

[quote][b]jim1968 (4/23/2008)[/b][hr]
Despite their disclaimer police, and agents of the court (Feds/DA's/Lawyers) are allowed to lie to them, and accept their terms, to entrap them in accepting funds of any kind for copyrighted material that they don't control the right of reproduction to. [/quote]

Yeah, exactly. If they can walk into a comic shop, pay for an "illegal" comic and then turn around and arrest the clerk for selling it to them then I'm pretty sure they can stroll into a website without it affecting their authority.

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

awillis — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:55:24 GMT

The big guys help save the little guys- nice!

thanks Jay!

I covered my two that they were listing with a c&d, also.:w00t:

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

jaylynch — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:09:39 GMT

I mentioned the thing to Kitchen. But I think most likely when I mentioned it to Joe Simon (who among his other accomplishments was his role as editor of SICK mag while I was writing for that noble publication in the mid '60s) That is probably when the dootyhit the fan. I don't know for sure what happened. Some kind of chain reaction, I guess.
It didn't take long, though.

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

jim1968 — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:16:08 GMT

Thank You 'Tons & Buckets' Jay!
I knew someone with "Big" industry connections would run across this!
They probably just laughed when I wrote "Take down Cherry"
But when someone of your stature steps up, and alerts mass media, hopefully they notice!
Pirate S.O.B.'s! :P

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

jaylynch — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:28:05 GMT

I sent them a c&D. But just to be sure, I also notified some more powerful folks in the regular comix biz about that site. They had Marvel and DC books up there too, you know. So lets hope they stay down. @#$% pains in the arses!

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

jaylynch — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:22:25 GMT

I emailed them a c&d letter. And I also notified some of the more powerful owners of these copyrghts. They had Marvel and DC books up there as well, you know... And you don't mess with the media conglomorates that own those outfits.

So let's just hope they stay down and don't resurface. @#$% pains in the arses!

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

awillis — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:00:58 GMT

[quote]While I'm certain my email had nothing to do with it.........it's funny that the site has been down for over a week.
The power of the people who just "troll" these boards is crazy!
[/quote]

Good job!

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

over40artist — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:14:29 GMT

Sounds like a case of justice being delivered through activists just like yourself, Jim.

Hopefully the site will stay down and eventually disappear forever. Scumbags....

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

jim1968 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:04:27 GMT

While I'm certain my email had nothing to do with it.........it's funny that the site has been down for over a week.
The power of the people who just "troll" these boards is crazy! :w00t:

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

jim1968 — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:12:01 GMT

This just shows the power of "trollers".
Somehow since this was posted the site has been "under construction".
As word of this illeagal site grows, I'm certain they have started to get slammed by letters from creators, artists, lawyers.
Despite their disclaimer police, and agents of the court (Feds/DA's/Lawyers) are allowed to lie to them, and accept their terms, to entrap them in accepting funds of any kind for copyrighted material that they don't control the right of reproduction to. Thank God my ex is a lawyer of almost 20 years!
I wrote, and informed them of this (even though the site was down).
Although I'm probably wrong, we may not see them "up" from construction again! :)

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

jim1968 — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:01:08 GMT

That's just nuts! Who would buy a download of a comic book?!?
Plus they are breaking the Federal Copyright Law by collecting money for work they didn't produce. Hell Napster got nailed for just giving away music.
I haven't looked to see if they have Cherry Comics up there, but I will. Since I wrote several stories for those books they owe Me, Fogel, Welz, and others if they're up there.
Knowing our luck though they probably aren't in the US. Best you can hope for is to shut down the site!

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

Rick Bradford — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:57:24 GMT

Reproducing and selling copyrighted works without consent from the copyright holder is against the law, period. That's the whole point of copyright law. And I can't imagine many judges wouldn't consider it "selling" since money is changing hands.

Wish I could take a look around though:

[quote]CHECK BACK LATER UNDER MAINTENANCE[/quote]

Maybe it always says that -- until you e-mail the site and thus supposedly agree to the Terms?

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

awillis — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:45:53 GMT

I'll give George "W" and the "Patriot Act" a skewering in Lost Cause # 4 lead story "Thirty Seconds Over Tehran". It started out in the Raygun years, currently getting ready to ink the Clinton years. ;)

The storyboards are all about complete.

[img]http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d111/awillis515/CopyofTHIRTYSECONDSOVERTEHRANpg.jpg[/img]

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

Comix Junky — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:25:10 GMT

Don't know for sure till the jury hands down the verdict.
But i'd say they was ripping you off.

In the '80s there was a "Lazer Disk Trading Club" that found a loophole for distributing VHS tapes. But it never really caught on.
These folks ain't that smart.

In the fine print you gotta sware that you ain't a cop, to enter.
That don't mean dooty after the "Patriot Act".
Entrapment is leagle now.

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

awillis — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:43:07 GMT

Here's the list of undergrounds at that site-

http://megatrafficnow.info/underground.htm

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

awillis — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:04:32 GMT

I see that aboveground digital comics were hashed out on the old site. My bad.

RE: Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

awillis — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:40:25 GMT

This is interesting-

http://www.tcj.com/232/e_format.html

Digital copies of comix's comics for sale on the internet

awillis — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:19:46 GMT

Has anyone ever heard of this site?

http://megatrafficnow.info/

It appears they are selling digital copies of comix, how complete they are is unknown to me.

Partial or complete, I cannot tell.

They claim it's legal.

I wonder about it.