InstantForum.NET v4.1.4The ComicsPriceGuide.com Boardshttp://www.comicspriceguide.com/boards/bryan@comicspriceguide.comTue, 02 Dec 2008 14:58:25 GMT20http://www.comicspriceguide.com/boards/Topic12470-7-1.aspx[quote][b]jaylynch (5/17/2008)[/b][hr]Will Elder died yesterday, by the way. [/quote]<br>Wow, that is sad news indeed. Jeez, I loved Will Elder like a MAD uncle.<br><br>I added a topic about Elder's death in this board's [i]Hall of Tribute[/i] forum if any of you care to pay your respects. And maybe teach a few of the kids on this board a lesson or two about what being a great cartoonist really means.<br><br>Damn, he was good!Sun, 18 May 2008 01:45:20 GMTover40artisthttp://www.comicspriceguide.com/boards/Topic12470-7-1.aspxThanks, Jay, for the kind elaboration. Looks like I have to expand my Topps collecting into the 80's to the present. At least those sets probably won't be as expensive to obtain as the earlier ones are these days.Sat, 17 May 2008 11:44:19 GMTwpbookshttp://www.comicspriceguide.com/boards/Topic12470-7-1.aspxTrina designed Mod Initials...or whatever it was finally called. Stickers of fashionable hipsters on A,B,C stickers. Spain illustrated a Big Little Book for Woody Gelman at Topps....but it was never published. While he was doing that, he did gags for other series. Bhob Stewart and Art worked there from 9 to 5. And so freelance underground cartoonists also wrote stuff for Mod Squad...or Sonny and Cher....or Fonzie cards. Stuff like that. We did a whole painted series called "EEy! It's the Fonz" that never came out. I edited that one. Bobby London did some stuff. Mostly Sam Whitehead did the paintings on it. Howard Cruse worked on GPK and Bazooka Joe. Pete Poplaski did Bazooka Joe stuff...<br> Topps is still doing new Wackys and GPKs. Justin Green, who worked on Bathroom Buddies, did some of the new GPK stuff. The Spanish underground cartoonist Javi Soler did some GPK backs in the '80s. Grass Green did a lot of lettering on Topps stuff. <br> Will Elder died yesterday, by the way. Even HE did Topps stuff at one point, as did all the original Mad guys and a few EC horror comics guys. George Evans, I think it was, did the GPK line art that appears on the GPK products. Ralph Reece....Tom Sutton...it just goes on and on.<br>Nobody has ever compiled a list of the underground artists who also worked for Topps. At least not that I know of.Sat, 17 May 2008 03:42:40 GMTjaylynchhttp://www.comicspriceguide.com/boards/Topic12470-7-1.aspxHey Jay, thanks for replying. I know Crumb did Monster Greeting Cards, and Spiegelman did Valentine Postacards and the backs of Krazy Little Comics, and you did work on the Wackys and Funny Little Jokebooks, and such, but do you remember which series that Trina and Spain worked on? I collect most Topps issues of the 60's and 70's, especially series that feature art as opposed to photos, and can't recall seeing work by those two...perhaps a set or two I don't have that must be obtained....Do you know where there is a reference of UG artists and the sets they worked on? Non-sport price guides don't usually list the artists, but the old timers like Jack Davis, Wallace Wood and Basil Wolverton, as well as the great Norman Saunders (Battle and Mars Attacks being series I actually like best) are pretty easy to spot.....Also, any info as to whether or not Abrams will feature Wacky Ads in forthcoming volumes...assuming this one's sales meet expectations? Can we expect more????Fri, 16 May 2008 21:25:34 GMTwpbookshttp://www.comicspriceguide.com/boards/Topic12470-7-1.aspxA lot of the underground cartoonists worked on the Wackys. Deitch, Griffith, Williamson, ....<br>And other Topps series of the time had Crumb, Spain, Trina.... Later Mark Newgarden, Drew Friedman, John Pound, Tom Bunk, Xno...the list is endless.<br><br>Art and I grew up with Kurtzman's stuff. His ad parodies made valid satircial points. We used his methods on the Wackys...But the majority of the Wacky stuff we just did to get dough to pay the bills. In most of it, we just dared to be stupid. There are a few that make actual satirical statements... But the majority of 'em are just good moronic fun.Fri, 16 May 2008 18:50:12 GMTjaylynchhttp://www.comicspriceguide.com/boards/Topic12470-7-1.aspx[quote][b]oldmilwaukee6er (5/16/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]wpbooks (5/15/2008)[/b][hr]And, Wackoid that I am... [/quote]<br><br>you're blowing my fragile little mind w/ your whacked-out tastes...<br>:w00t:<br>it's dope![/quote]<br><br><br>Perhaps the fragility is due to all that Oldmilwaukee.....Perhaps a Guinness is just what you need to set things straight...either that or your own copy of Wacky Packages-THE BOOK!Fri, 16 May 2008 10:21:59 GMTwpbookshttp://www.comicspriceguide.com/boards/Topic12470-7-1.aspx[quote][b]wpbooks (5/15/2008)[/b][hr]And, Wackoid that I am... [/quote]<br><br>you're blowing my fragile little mind w/ your whacked-out tastes...<br>:w00t:<br>it's dope!Fri, 16 May 2008 09:51:45 GMToldmilwaukee6erhttp://www.comicspriceguide.com/boards/Topic12470-7-1.aspxI've never seen the website, but I remember a guy from Northern California, I think, who bought a lot of the art at the original Guernsey's Auction when Topps first starting selling that stuff off. He used to advertise in The Wrapper non-sports magazine, looking for any pieces he was missing, but I can't remember his name. Pretty sure it's the same guy.Thu, 15 May 2008 17:09:19 GMTwpbookshttp://www.comicspriceguide.com/boards/Topic12470-7-1.aspxIsn't there a wealthy collector who has many of the original art pieces and has a website showing them off? I seem to remember seeing it a year or so ago.<br>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:59:50 GMT50centIIhttp://www.comicspriceguide.com/boards/Topic12470-7-1.aspxJust received the new Wacky Packages book published by Abrams with an introduction by art spiegelman and an afterword by forum member Jay Lynch. It is a truly beautiful book with each sticker from the first seven series getting it's own glossy full color page. Guess that since it only goes up to the end of series 7 we can expect another volume to take us to series 16, perhaps? And hey Jay, maybe you can answer this....how come it begins with the 1973 series and doesn't go back to the original 1969(?) set or include the great Wacky Ads series. As a collector and fan of all things "Wacky" I feel like the whole story is not being told here...beautiful, though the book may be...and why no examples of the checklists or puzzles? True the reverses would have been a tad redundant but the checklist/puzzles are essential to the WP experience! <br><br> And now I must digress...in 2000 I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. spiegelman at a signing he was doing, and I had compiled my own color-xeroxed book of the complete Wacky Ads/Packages because it seemed that it would never happen otherwise. I presented Mr. s my copy, which included the puzzles and the Ads,for his signature, and it appeared that he had never seen all the components arranged all together like that before and he happily signed it and thumbed through it for a good 5 minutes, shaking his head as if he thought I must be the craziest fanboy collector ever ....having spent the large sum to copy the whole series like that...it now seems like I should have approached someone long ago with my stupid idea...oh well, at least my book is complete and in one volume! And, Wackoid that I am, I plan on buying each and every subsequent volume that hopefully Abrams is planning! <br> <br> So, at the risk of sounding like a shill for Abrams, all you UG forum members should consider this book seriously as an adjunct to the UG collecting experience....those UG guys were working their mojo on us unsuspecting pre-teens right under the noses of "The Establishment". This is the proof! A fine tome, indeed!Thu, 15 May 2008 16:52:33 GMTwpbooks