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RE: CGC Results

BMXman — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:05:06 GMT

[quote][b]Crowman (7/26/2008)[/b][hr]Will definitely send them back. I paid a lot for those books and they are not in the conditions I expected them to be. Rather than have the money refunded, I will have a credit with the store. This was my suffestion and chpoice of action.[/quote]

what dealer is this? They sound like a pretty good place to buy from...D

RE: CGC Results

Crowman — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:17:15 GMT

Will definitely send them back. I paid a lot for those books and they are not in the conditions I expected them to be. Rather than have the money refunded, I will have a credit with the store. This was my suffestion and chpoice of action.

RE: CGC Results

Set 0ne — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:41:36 GMT

[quote][b]Crowman (7/25/2008)[/b][hr]Five of the restored books came from the one seller which really surprised me as I have always had a very good relationship and trust with this dealer. Some of the books were purchased as far back ago as 2005.

I contacted the dealer and they were very apologetic and ofrfered to let me send the books back for refund. The dealer also offered to pay for postage to send back any other books that I was concerned about to be checked more vigourously for any restoration.

A very happy and satisfactory ending.[/quote]

Glad to hear that the seller was apologetic and seemed nice bout the situation...But the question IS are you going to send the books back to get the refund or are you going to keep them in your collection and just wait until a better copy arrives?

RE: CGC Results

Crowman — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:56:40 GMT

Five of the restored books came from the one seller which really surprised me as I have always had a very good relationship and trust with this dealer. Some of the books were purchased as far back ago as 2005.

I contacted the dealer and they were very apologetic and ofrfered to let me send the books back for refund. The dealer also offered to pay for postage to send back any other books that I was concerned about to be checked more vigourously for any restoration.

A very happy and satisfactory ending.

RE: CGC Results

Crowman — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:58:40 GMT

It cost me over $800 for this grading exercise. Yes, maybe I went in too deeply for a first time and I have been burned for my lack of caution. However, each of these bookks has the potential to be a $1000 book (if not already) and I felt their conditions (apart from the resotred ones of course) justified the grading.

RE: CGC Results

KingOfRulers — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:59:21 GMT

[quote][b]Speedy-D (7/20/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]KingOfRulers (7/19/2008)[/b][hr]That's for value tier. You have to submit a 30 book minimum. That tier is good for the high grade1970-1974 books.

Submitting books like Crowman did is probably the standard tier which is $49 each. It seemed like a fast turnaround time, so I am just guessing it is standard. Economy is $29 each, but it takes a longer time and the book has to be worth $250 or less.[/quote]

Thanks man. I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but that just seems so expensive to me. Are they worth at least 50 bucks more now? We were just talking about this, and pretty much came to the conclusion that CGC comics, especially mid-grade, don't sell for all that much more.

Crowman, did you submit them to increase their value? Now that you've gotten them back, do you anticipate realizing at least $50 more per sale? I haven't yet looked up the values of each of those issues, I'd imagine they must be pretty high (I like DC better so I'm more familiar with those prices). I suppose for a comic over say $350 or $400, getting an extra 50 bucks for the grading could happen.

Y'know KoR, I think I'd buy a comic that you told me was an 8.0 with more confidence than a CGC 8.0, definitely way more confidence than a PGX 8.0 (I have zero faith in PGX right now). You should start charging a premium![/quote]

Low and midgrade Silver Age Marvel (non-keys) generally don't sell well at all. Probably 15-50% of guide most times on eBay. But if you are a dealer that just bought a low/mid grade Silver Age collection for 10 cents a book, it is WELL WORTH the grading costs. It all just depends on what the book is and how much you have in it to decide if it is right for you to submit a book.

I appreciate the trust in my grades. Maybe one day my raw books will be flying out of my eBay store like my graded ones lol

RE: CGC Results

DeadOne — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:27:07 GMT

[quote][b]Speedy-D (7/20/2008)[/b]Y'know KoR, You should start charging a premium![/quote]

shhhhhh ;)

One of the things I like about these forums when I joined was that people gave honest opinions on the grades for others books...It gives a real insight into how others view books, and for a "new to grading" chump like me it's very helpful. King has always been trusted on his grades...and, for the most part, spot-on.

RE: CGC Results

Speedy-D — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:02:39 GMT

[quote][b]KingOfRulers (7/19/2008)[/b][hr]That's for value tier. You have to submit a 30 book minimum. That tier is good for the high grade1970-1974 books.

Submitting books like Crowman did is probably the standard tier which is $49 each. It seemed like a fast turnaround time, so I am just guessing it is standard. Economy is $29 each, but it takes a longer time and the book has to be worth $250 or less.[/quote]

Thanks man. I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but that just seems so expensive to me. Are they worth at least 50 bucks more now? We were just talking about this, and pretty much came to the conclusion that CGC comics, especially mid-grade, don't sell for all that much more.

Crowman, did you submit them to increase their value? Now that you've gotten them back, do you anticipate realizing at least $50 more per sale? I haven't yet looked up the values of each of those issues, I'd imagine they must be pretty high (I like DC better so I'm more familiar with those prices). I suppose for a comic over say $350 or $400, getting an extra 50 bucks for the grading could happen.

Y'know KoR, I think I'd buy a comic that you told me was an 8.0 with more confidence than a CGC 8.0, definitely way more confidence than a PGX 8.0 (I have zero faith in PGX right now). You should start charging a premium!

RE: CGC Results

szelim — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:48:41 GMT

Sorry to hear about the restoration found on some of the books, especially the trimmed books. While it is probably too late to expect refunds, it nevertheless may be worth pointing out to the sellers your disappointment that the books you bought from them had restoration. If they want to retain your business, they may offer some form of restitution like store credit, although you'd want some assurance that they'll be able to do a better job of detecting restoration.

RE: CGC Results

Set 0ne — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:27:04 GMT

Darn on those resto books :/ However if they were purchased from rep people I guess they themselves didn't even know? Which of course is a shame too but it just goes to show you how great a resto job can be..ehehe (^^);;;

RE: CGC Results

KingOfRulers — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:29:22 GMT

That's for value tier. You have to submit a 30 book minimum. That tier is good for the high grade 1970-1974 books.

Submitting books like Crowman did is probably the standard tier which is $49 each. It seemed like a fast turnaround time, so I am just guessing it is standard. Economy is $29 each, but it takes a longer time and the book has to be worth $250 or less.

RE: CGC Results

Speedy-D — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:33:49 GMT

Hey Crowman, I'm trying to figure out how much CGC grading actually costs? How many comics did you get graded, and how much did it cost all together? If you don't mind my asking that is (I don't see why you would but some folks don't like talking about money too much).

From what I can figure out on the CGC Web site, it looks like $20/comic is the minimum, and that's for comics that aren't valued over $100. Is this true?

RE: CGC Results

batfan — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:23:34 GMT

that sucks. i would at least acknowledge the resto to them. maybe they are nice enough to do something.

RE: CGC Results

Crowman — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:40:18 GMT

Thanks for your comments guys.

Not to worry King, you are one of the most rrespected and well thought of forum members and I always value your opinions. Some of the books I have had way too long to get them changed, but some maybe not.

This has taught me one thing.... sending SA's in to CGC can be a risky business and you have to be very sure of your grade. Maybe I will stick to moderns in the future.

RE: CGC Results

KingOfRulers — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:09:08 GMT

That's too bad on your first submission crowman. Most came back lower than I personally expected, and the several restored books that came back just don't help. I am usually more accurate than I was. I think I need to hold the book in person to get a more accurate grade, maybe. :ermm:

How long ago were the books purchased crowman. If you'd had the books for over 6 months or 9 months, it is really too long to complain. Every reputable dealer of GA and SA books will always refund a book if it comes back restored (and it wasn't sold as so), but there is an unspoken time limit too. If they weren't purchased in the last 6 months or so, I'd say you're out of luck, unfortunately.

RE: CGC Results

Sherlock_Holmes206 — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:07:55 GMT

As KoR said, most people probably have restored books in their collections and don't even know it. As bad as the restored books are, I feel for you on the 2 trimmed books, that's a killer.

RE: CGC Results

Boboset — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:39:17 GMT

I'd complain. Sorry to hear about the resto results...:angry:

CGC Results

Crowman — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:01:25 GMT

I have posted the grades of the 20 books I sent into CGC. I guess I would have to say that tbir grading was pretty much on the money, except for maybe my X-Men 8,9 and 10, whiuch I thought might have come in 0.5 higher.

The biggest shock was to see 6 restored books, which I was not expecting at all. Some of these books were purchased from reliable sellers and the restoration was not mentioned in the comic grading notes.

Do you think it is worth complaining to the seller?