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RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

georgiafan87 — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:23:52 GMT

Still, you can understand the reservations of retailers who were told they had to up their orders considerably in order to receive the variant covers

Like I said my 2nd cousin runs the LCS where I live and he flat out said there was no way he would up his order to get a Obama Var. in the store. Well, lets just say he sold out very very quickly, matter of fact the 4th printing that just came out, is already selling out at the store. When I left store yesterday there were a meer 3 issues left. He's already put in for the 5th printing.

The obama sotry was very lack luster as a story goes,but guess the historical aspect boost the value of comic, I hvae the first printing regular cover and I've seen it go for $40-$45 on Amazon.

The stories are just getting worse and worse, the characters assasination is growing tiring for me and it's only in the 2nd issue of story line.

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

Icebreaka — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:00:13 GMT

Keep in mind that the Obama Spidey is going to probably end up being the best selling single issue in years. THat'll probably keep them in their land of dreams for a while. Here's the December sales info. Its dropped below 70,000 per issue which is pretty poor for the land mark title. New Avengers sells like 95k by comparison.

19,21,27. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN
12/03 Amazing Spider-Man #502 - 90,484
12/04 Amazing Spider-Man #515 - 82,840
12/05 Amazing Spider-Man #527 - 79,261
12/06 —
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12/07 Amazing Spider-Man #545 - 129,085 (-18.9%)
01/08 Amazing Spider-Man #546 - 127,958 ( -0.9%)
01/08 Amazing Spider-Man #547 - 101,213 (-20.9%)
01/08 Amazing Spider-Man #548 - 97,959 ( -3.2%)
02/08 Amazing Spider-Man #549 - 101,112 ( +3.2%)
02/08 Amazing Spider-Man #550 - 90,874 (-10.1%)
02/08 Amazing Spider-Man #551 - 88,084 ( -3.1%)
03/08 Amazing Spider-Man #552 - 89,835 ( +2.0%)
03/08 Amazing Spider-Man #553 - 82,648 ( -8.0%)
03/08 Amazing Spider-Man #554 - 81,072 ( -1.9%)
04/08 Amazing Spider-Man #555 - 86,902 ( +7.2%)
04/08 Amazing Spider-Man #556 - 78,458 ( -9.7%)
04/08 Amazing Spider-Man #557 - 77,057 ( -1.8%)
05/08 Amazing Spider-Man #558 - 76,966 ( -0.1%)
05/08 Amazing Spider-Man #559 - 74,206 ( -3.6%)
05/08 Amazing Spider-Man #560 - 74,012 ( -0.3%)
06/08 Amazing Spider-Man #561 - 72,372 ( -2.2%)
06/08 Amazing Spider-Man #562 - 71,409 ( -1.3%)
06/08 Amazing Spider-Man #563 - 70,792 ( -0.9%)
07/08 Amazing Spider-Man #564 - 68,882 ( -2.7%)
07/08 Amazing Spider-Man #565 - 69,182 ( +0.4%)
07/08 Amazing Spider-Man #566 - 68,912 ( -0.4%)
08/08 Amazing Spider-Man #567 - 68,130 ( -1.1%)
08/08 Amazing Spider-Man #568 - 105,324 (+54.6%)
08/08 Amazing Spider-Man #569 - 86,432 (-17.9%)
09/08 Amazing Spider-Man #570 - 89,516 ( +3.6%)
09/08 Amazing Spider-Man #571 - 80,178 (-10.4%)
09/08 Amazing Spider-Man #572 - 80,220 ( +0.1%)
10/08 Amazing Spider-Man #573 - 82,550 ( +2.9%)
10/08 Amazing Spider-Man #574 - 69,069 (-16.3%)
10/08 Amazing Spider-Man #575 - 68,913 ( -0.2%)
11/08 Amazing Spider-Man #576 - 68,956 ( +0.1%)
11/08 Amazing Spider-Man #577 - 76,625 (+11.1%)
11/08 Amazing Spider-Man #578 - 66,564 (-13.1%)
12/08 Amazing Spider-Man #579 - 69,784 ( +4.8%)
12/08 Amazing Spider-Man #580 - 62,979 ( -9.8%)
12/08 Amazing Spider-Man #581 - 68,905 ( +9.4%)
6 mnth ( -2.7%)
1 year (-46.6%)
2 year ( — )
3 year (-13.1%)
4 year (-16.8%)
5 year (-23.8%)

Issues #579 and #581 both have villain variants. But issue #580 doesn’t, so it’s the best indicator of the real audience size: roughly 63K. And that’s not great considering that in November, the non-variant issues sold over 66K. AMAZING is an odd book, in that its sales tend to bounce up for highly promoted storylines even when they’re not crossovers or any other sort of events. Nonetheless, strip out the variants and it looks like the book is still shedding readers after a year of the new format.

The January chart will be a different story, of course, featuring as it does Barack Obama in pulse-pounding conversation with the wall-crawler. Still, you can understand the reservations of retailers who were told they had to up their orders considerably in order to receive the variant covers.

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

Yogurt — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:20:42 GMT

I say they wouldnt do the #1 they'll just figure out a way to retcon the retcon and put things back they way they were with marriage and leave his no one knowing who he is with the minor characters still there

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

mark — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:01:48 GMT

Just for yucks, I went to the Marvel website Spidey forum.

Apparently, Amazing has fallen in readership by over 40% this year and now the total of the three weekly amazing issues are under the combined total of the three titles prior. When you add in the 1:10 variants that have been everywhere to drive up sales, you can clearly see this has been a fairly epic disaster.

Does Marvel care-no, but you have to wonder how much more they can take before they make another change.

A new number one perhaps? Remember, we called it here first.

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

oxbladder — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:03:42 GMT

I collected the odd run of ASM here and there. I collected the whole run of Spidey titles when he got the alien black costume (mostly good stuff). The next long run I had was most of the David Michelinie run. David M's run was great! Next I read most of the Clown Saga which was truly Godawful. I think I read a few issues after that but once they brought back Norman Osbourne it completely jumped the shark for me and ever since then I haven't been able to get through a single issue or even half an issue. It lost something back in the Clown Saga days and it hasn't ever regained it.

I know several other folks that gave up on it then too. One collector had collected it since AF 15! Many other titles tanked at that time for me and it took until this new century for me to start getting back into Marvel.

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

VenomZeus — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:34:54 GMT

He did team-up with Wolverine in the Brand New Day storyline it was horrible, lol

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

jesjet1969 — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:25:15 GMT

big 80's and 90's fan but ultimate was it for me after issue #50 just lost interest. He's more of a drama heroe now in the 80's it was bring on the bad guys and barely win the fight. Maybe one day he will get back into the grove with me maybe he needs to team up with wolverine again thoses where the days. If you havn't read any of these from the nighty's get them they are great pricey but great.

as far as sales dropping I think over all his fan base is getting younger and more driven by the movies not the comic.

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

VenomZeus — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:19:30 GMT

Spidey is getting worst and worst, the storylines are so bad it doesn't even feel like a spider-man comic. It just feels so generic, I pretty much rather read anything than Spidey and it's been the title I always read right away since '94 (even with the bad storylines). This is just another level of bad.

And what was the point of the hole Flash Thomson issue? Didn't he get in a car accident and that's why he can no longer walk or something like that...? I just can't remember... How can they revamp the accident?

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

mark — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:06:04 GMT

[quote][b]georgiafan87 (11/14/2008)[/b][hr]Yeah I'm still reading, but my 2nd cousin runs the comic shop i go to, he says that from the 31 pulls he had last month it's went up to 45 this month but belives just because of the New Ways to Die and will go back down.[/quote]

That is exactly what happened. I now believe we will see the numbers combined lower then the previous world with three titles.

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

chris woolverton — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:11:16 GMT

I have been reading comics since the mid 70s. my fav. was spiderman, however in the early 90s the art and the stories just went down the drain.For the price and the quality I stopped buying. that included X-men and everything else. If Amazing spiderman ends it should have ended way back in isue #400.

wolfie

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

clp17 — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:37:21 GMT

I have not been buying new comics for a few years but have thought about starting a couple of books.Spider Man was always one of my favorite characters.

Can someone tell me what this Mephisto story was about that everyone would be mad about?

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

WOLFEN — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:18:39 GMT

[quote][b]Chamber005 (11/14/2008)[/b][hr][quote][b]WOLFEN (11/13/2008)[/b][hr]Spider-man is dead to me...

BND and the Quesada regime killed it for me[/quote]

Read Ultimate! I just purchased the first three hardcover volumes and #7 on Amazon. If you're thrifty, you can grab the hardcover versions, shipping included, for about 1.50 per issue. The hardcovers include 10 issues (or 2 volumes) each. :D

Don't buy the collector's edition, which has hardcover volumes 1-3 (paperback 1-6) even for 50 bucks (half off). You can still get the individual hardcovers for cheaper.[/quote]

Ultimate was the last one I was getting before i cut out Spidey for good...

I have close to 90 issues of Ult.Spidey..wasn't a bad title..just lost interest.

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

georgiafan87 — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 22:15:08 GMT

Yeah I'm still reading, but my 2nd cousin runs the comic shop i go to, he says that from the 31 pulls he had last month it's went up to 45 this month but belives just because of the New Ways to Die and will go back down.

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

Gilight — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:43:05 GMT

I have grown used to the new format- like the old format better
Still on my list

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

Chamber005 — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:35:33 GMT

[quote][b]WOLFEN (11/13/2008)[/b][hr]Spider-man is dead to me...

BND and the Quesada regime killed it for me[/quote]

Don't buy the collector's edition, which has hardcover volumes 1-3 (paperback 1-6) even for 50 bucks (half off). You can still get the individual hardcovers for cheaper.

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

WOLFEN — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:17:38 GMT

Spider-man is dead to me...

BND and the Quesada regime killed it for me

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

Icebreaka — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:16:49 GMT

The latest sales analysis is from August which I'll post in here below. Basically there was an increase with the New Ways to Die arc unfortunately so the message isn't get sent well.

Basically the deal is that yes sales have fallen to 70,000 per issue for ASM which is down from the 130,000 per issue during the Back in Black arc. The thing is Sensational Spidey and Friendly Neighbourhood spidey were selling like 35 or 40k per issue. So with 3 spidey titles a month they had basically 145k in sales. Now they have 3 per month selling 70k or 210k per month so they are actually selling more Spidey book a month with this BND crap.

However the thing is if they just dropped Sensation and Friendly and didn't do the magic Mephisto thing what would sales be like? I bet like 100k an issue or 300k per month. Joe Q will argue BND's success till the end of his days but anyone with half a brain sees through it.

Here's the August and historical sales info below

7,14,21,231. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN

08/03 Amazing Spider-Man #57 - 93,469

08/04 Amazing Spider-Man #511 - 88,118

08/05 Amazing Spider-Man #523 - 72,046

08/06 —

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08/07 Amazing Spider-Man #543 - 106,485 ( +0.7%)

09/07 Amazing Spider-Man #544 - 159,104 (+49.4%)

10/07 —

11/07 —

12/07 Amazing Spider-Man #545 - 129,085 (-18.9%)

01/08 Amazing Spider-Man #546 - 127,958 ( -0.9%)

01/08 Amazing Spider-Man #547 - 101,213 (-20.9%)

01/08 Amazing Spider-Man #548 - 97,959 ( -3.2%)

02/08 Amazing Spider-Man #549 - 101,112 ( +3.2%)

02/08 Amazing Spider-Man #550 - 90,874 (-10.1%)

02/08 Amazing Spider-Man #551 - 88,084 ( -3.1%)

03/08 Amazing Spider-Man #552 - 89,835 ( +2.0%)

03/08 Amazing Spider-Man #553 - 82,648 ( -8.0%)

03/08 Amazing Spider-Man #554 - 81,072 ( -1.9%)

04/08 Amazing Spider-Man #555 - 86,902 ( +7.2%)

04/08 Amazing Spider-Man #556 - 78,458 ( -9.7%)

04/08 Amazing Spider-Man #557 - 77,057 ( -1.8%)

05/08 Amazing Spider-Man #558 - 76,966 ( -0.1%)

05/08 Amazing Spider-Man #559 - 74,206 ( -3.6%)

05/08 Amazing Spider-Man #560 - 74,012 ( -0.3%)

06/08 Amazing Spider-Man #561 - 72,372 ( -2.2%)

06/08 Amazing Spider-Man #562 - 71,409 ( -1.3%)

06/08 Amazing Spider-Man #563 - 70,792 ( -0.9%)

07/08 Amazing Spider-Man #564 - 68,882 ( -2.7%)

07/08 Amazing Spider-Man #565 - 69,182 ( +0.4%)

07/08 Amazing Spider-Man #566 - 68,912 ( -0.4%)

08/08 Amazing Spider-Man #567 - 68,130 ( -1.1%)

08/08 Amazing Spider-Man #568 - 98,357 (+44.4%)

08/08 Amazing Spider-Man #569 - 77,950 (-20.7%)

6 mnth (-11.5%)

1 year (-26.8%)

2 year ( — )

3 year ( +8.2%)

4 year (-11.5%)

5 year (-16.6%)

Issues #568 and #569 are the first two parts of "New Ways To Die" - not a crossover,

but simply a heavily promoted storyline. It looks to be off to a good start; the book actually

shows an increase from 2005. Issue #568 has a variant cover, and there’s also a sketch variant

lurking at number 231 on the charts. The sales above are cumulative.

RE: Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

Chamber005 — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:29:30 GMT

[quote][b]mark (11/13/2008)[/b][hr]I continue to hear that Amazing is dropping readership at a new increasing rate. That the annual pissed off so many people that those who may have been holding on have now dropped it. That if you take away all the variant covers, second prints, etc, that there really is quite low readership and that Marvel is just milking the completists to get all the covers.

Earl, any new stats? that are not three months old?

What are you all seeing at your shops? Mine has cut their orders back dramatically and still has books left on the shelves.[/quote]

That's funny because the Ultimate Spider-man annual was KILLER! It was basically just about Peter and Mary Jane side stepping the issue of whether or not they should "go all the way". I've never, ever read a Spider-man book for more than 2 or 3 issues before dropping it and returning the issues for consignment. Ultimate Spider-man is the only Spidey book that I totally HAVE to read...which is funny because it's the ONLY Ultimate title I read anymore. I used to read Ultimates and Ultimate X-men, but I've since returned my entire collections to my LCS for consignment.

Oh -- and I read the Origins stuff and the I'm doing Ultimatum.

I feel like, with the exception of Fantastic Four and X-men, titles like Avengers and Spidey kind of need that reboot. The X-men have aged and grown and are in their mid-to-late thirties now and can acknowledge their pasts. But like Batman, some of the Avengers and Spidey seem to be a little TOO stalled in time. Peter Parker should be the same age as Cyclops. I'm just not sure that he is...

Sales of Amazing Spiderman Plummeting

mark — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:04:07 GMT

I continue to hear that Amazing is dropping readership at a new increasing rate. That the annual pissed off so many people that those who may have been holding on have now dropped it. That if you take away all the variant covers, second prints, etc, that there really is quite low readership and that Marvel is just milking the completists to get all the covers.

Earl, any new stats? that are not three months old?

What are you all seeing at your shops? Mine has cut their orders back dramatically and still has books left on the shelves.