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| The industry is basically full of "collectors" (and therefore dealers) who have a stigma towards purple (restored) and green (qualified) labels. I can't say that I am truly above this, but after having talked to collectors, dealers and graders I have a different sort of view towards it. From what I see, collectors basically have a view towards this which is a total rejection and interest in the book even if it is a book they want, and it is priced accordingly. At the sight of one of those labels on a slab, the deal is over before it started. Doesn't that seem kind of silly? It could be a VF Cap #1 with extensive work priced at $3,000 and you'll have plenty of people not even consider it. It causes a chain reaction in the industry of no interest, even if the deal is a good one, because the mindset will be, "yeah, it's a good deal, but who would I sell it to?" Could this be because collectors have an already OCD way of collecting, so that everything must be uniform in a collection? I am not saying I don't want all unrestored, perfect books, but it seems that the collector mentality is somewhat illogical at times.
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| I would probably be like that for sure if I was flipping books etc., but for the most part I'm happy with a nice looking copy at a price I am willing to pay. Restored on Golden age books (depending on the work) probably do not deserve that stigma in general. I can understand a bit for many silver age (as they are not usually hard to come by in higher grades). I understand the stigma with moderns though -- why get a restored label on something readily available?
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I was totally jonesing for a copy of Flash 105, and I got a restored ("slight restoration" whatever that means) 5.5 for far less than I ever could have afforded otherwise. And it looks awesome. I really don't see what the big deal is. If the restoration is done well, and it's seriously reducing the price of an expensive comic, that works for me.
Also, I like purple more than light blue.
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I guess I fall into that category somewhat, but then again I have never run across an older book that I really wanted either. I mean if I could get my hands on a restored TOS 39 at a decent price, yeah I would buy it because I want that book. My collection is full of a lot of great books, but they never had to be VM/NM. I applaud those who are grade conscious and "condition snobs" (no offense.) I guess it is all in what you can afford.
Besides I could always take it out of the slab and put it in a mylar and say it "looks" like it has been restored.
Where does he get those wonderful toys!
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What about the old-style red "regular" labels as opposed to the new, blue "Universal" labels? I hear some folks think the old red-labeled books are graded more harshly, so an old 9.6 with the red label may very well grade out at 9.8 (or higher) now...
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| I am one of those people who stay away from qualified and restored books, that's for sure. But I wonder if I do that, only because of the industry's view at large towards books like that. Some red labels can come back higher. But I don't think "most" will. It is probably just like resubbing books that were recently graded. Sometimes they will come back higher and sometimes not. From what I've seen, red label books aren't graded significantly harsher than newly graded books. But, I haven't seen that many red labels either.
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| i don't care about buying restored. i do qualified. people have in their mind that restoration is a bad thing. IMO it isn't. i prefer a beautifully restored comic to a ugly low grade.
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| I personally stay away from restored or qualified books. Granted, I'm not a big graded book collector, but I've always wanted a really nice key golden age book and would love a nice restored copy over a lower grade unrestored copy. With most books being readily aval. to purchase I think most people would prefer an unrestored copy, however, with books that few copies exist of a restored copy is probally just as good if not better depending on its price and presentation. Obviously, the majority of collectors want books that are unrestored and if you're building runs that one restored book in a collection of unrestored copies would look very suspect. Personally, i would never buy a restored book unless getting an affordable copy is out of my price range.
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