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ckillian (5/31/2008)
over40artist (5/31/2008)
Man, we have been over and over this topic many times on this board.
I've done it all in my years on eBay. Years ago, I was stupid enough to put in a high bid early in the auction, only to find that I had often motivated other bidders to incrementally pursue my bid and win the auction. I soon realized I was only rigging the auction to sell at higher price with my early bidding.
So then I started to bid later in the auction window. Even then, other late bidders would get excited by my bid and submit multiple bids until they had beat me. Then, in the last few minutes, I had to decide whether I wanted to bid even higher to win the book. And I often did (like a fool).
Finally, I realized that sniping was the only way to go. For over a year, I did it manually, waiting for the last few seconds and then submitting a bid that often won the auction.
Then I realized that sniping software was the easiest way to accomplish my objectives. I could set my high price and then walk away from the emotions that so often take over in the final minutes of bidding. Either I won the auction or I lost it, but at least I was only bidding what I wanted to pay and no more.
Sniping software is good for both buyers and sellers, because it virtually guarantees that there is a competitive bid coming late in the auction. For sellers, that bid drives up the selling price, but only by the minimum requirement. For buyers, they get the chance to compete in an auction that they cannot be present to bid manually. Buyers often win an auction by hanging in the background and not revealing their intention until it is too late for their competition to respond.
There is nothing wrong with sniping, not in any way, shape or form. In fact, if everyone used sniping, the sellers would suffer and the buyers would profit. And any eBay buyers spending more than $50 a month on anything on eBay are just throwing their money away if they are not sniping.
It's not cheating (a completely idiotic argument) and it is not harmful to the system of internet auctioning, especially for buyers.
***** making gestures with hands ***** Blah blah blah blah I think this sounds like nanny nanny boo boo, Ckillian. I though O40's post was well said and agreed with almost all of it. It is entertaining to see the petulant losers that have been sniped, gotten ticked about it ,and just can't seem to let go.
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Someone mentioned that they have no problem with someone entering a bid at the last few seconds as opposed to using a sniping program. For 1, whats the difference? The result will be the same. For 2, how do you know a sniping program is being used? I can enter a bid manually that will hit with 2 seconds left in the auction. Would anyone know that though?
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thespazz (5/31/2008)
Someone mentioned that they have no problem with someone entering a bid at the last few seconds as opposed to using a sniping program. For 1, whats the difference? The result will be the same. For 2, how do you know a sniping program is being used? I can enter a bid manually that will hit with 2 seconds left in the auction. Would anyone know that though?
No, no one would or could know the difference. Like I said earlier in this topic, I manually entered last-second bids for over a year to win many precious auctions, and the seller (and other bidders) had no way to know for a fact whether I had done it manually or with sniping software. Then I switched to sniping software for the next year and the same facts remained: no one knew for a fact whether I had won the auction manually or with software.
Anyone, including ckillian, that is whining like a baby about the widespread use of sniping software is simply sticking their head in the sand like a petulant child: "No, no, no, don't let them use that automatic sniping stuff!"
Wake up and smell your loser butthole, okay? Either you are in this century or you are in the last one. In this century, serious ebay bidders are using sniping software to kick your butt. If you want to win auctions at the lowest possible price, sniping software is the easiest way to do it. POINT, SET, MATCH!!!
Of course, if you don't use sniping software, it is still possible to win auctions against snipers and other bidders. But when you post your highest bid far in advance of the close, you are simply advertising your high bid in advance to people who are way smarter than you are about winning auctions. And you only have yourself to blame for being a losing bidder.
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over40artist (6/8/2008)
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Wake up and smell your loser butthole, okay?  eeewwwww!
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| I'm against snipers here. It is a two way street. People who use sniping programs are trying to go against the normal grain of the auction. Those here who use them and agree that nothing is wrong with them, should also take your own advice: If place your absolute highest bid amount you want to pay is the way to beat a sniper program, why use a program to do that? Why do you have to have a program wait until the last seconds of the auction?
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yourplace2 (6/9/2008)
I'm against snipers here. It is a two way street. People who use sniping programs are trying to go against the normal grain of the auction. Those here who use them and agree that nothing is wrong with them, should also take your own advice: If place your absolute highest bid amount you want to pay is the way to beat a sniper program, why use a program to do that? Why do you have to have a program wait until the last seconds of the auction? Because I prefer to have a life... I need to go to work to make money to support my collectibles habit, not sit at home in front of my computer trying to win an auction by bidding manually so some delicate little flower's sensitivity doesnt get bruised because I make my bid in person. Also I think that people who set an alarm to wake up and bid on an auction are losing sleep! something I NEVER like to do, especially when working a lot. No silver spoon in this mouth. When it's time to make the donuts, that takes precedence over Ebay. Sniping programs allow me to bid when I am not physically there, follow many auctions at one time, set it and forget it... and that it the main reason I use them (and they save me money)
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Lookwhoitis (6/9/2008)
yourplace2 (6/9/2008)
I'm against snipers here. It is a two way street. People who use sniping programs are trying to go against the normal grain of the auction. Those here who use them and agree that nothing is wrong with them, should also take your own advice: If place your absolute highest bid amount you want to pay is the way to beat a sniper program, why use a program to do that? Why do you have to have a program wait until the last seconds of the auction? Because I prefer to have a life... [bold]I need to go to work to make money to support my collectibles habit[/bold], not sit at home in front of my computer trying to win an auction by bidding manually [bold]so some delicate little flower's sensitivity doesnt get bruised [/bold]because I make my bid in person. Also I think that people who set an alarm to wake up and bid on an auction are losing sleep! something I NEVER like to do, especially when working a lot. No silver spoon in this mouth. When it's time to make the donuts, that takes precedence over Ebay. Sniping programs allow me to bid when I am not physically there, follow many auctions at one time, set it and forget it... and that it the main reason I use them (and they save me money) Sounds like you NEED A LIFE to me bud. I struck a nerve huh? Awwww....
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